Following potential 2014 draftees

[The Midnight]

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[ljnapoli]

Randle isn't athletic enough, nor does he have the wingspan to be an above-average PF.

Gordon is a worse shooter than Smart, more of a tweener, shows considerably less offensive skills and is about the same impact wise defensively.

Vonleh is raw, hasn't exactly showed much of anything this year. No post moves, average shooter, turnover prone, not a leader, and in his last 3 games had 17 points….total. Smart averages that per game.

Ennis isn't worth mentioning. You put Smart on him, and he doesn't do anything.

Marcus Smart may be the best defender in college right now, and he's certainly the best guard defender. While his shooting may not be great, it has improved while last year. Increased his assists while decreasing his turnovers, in addition to taking a larger role on the team. He is that teams heart and soul. He gets to the line easily, that's a skill that translates. He finishes at the rim, that's a skill that translates. He rebounds very well for a guard, that's a skill that translates. He defends his *** off, and he hustles more than any elite college player I've seen in a long time, that's a skill that translates. Put him in the open spacing of the NBA, and he's easily averaging 12/5/4 as a rookie, while providing excellent defense. That's a guarantee…you can quote me on that.

You also have to remember his intangibles. He's a leader, he hustles…what happens when other players see the best player on the court diving around for loose balls? They're gonna dive around for loose balls. His playing style is contagious. While I would prefer Wiggins/Parker/Embiid, and I'm still 50/50 on Smart and Exum…I would not be disappointed at all in getting Marcus Smart.

We have a point guard who averaged 12/5/4 in his rookie season, granted Smart would defs be an upgrade on the defensive side of the ball.... Smart cant shoot at all either. Exum/Wiggins/Parker/Embiid or bust this draft tbh. Vonleh could maybe turn into something decent from what I've seen but I can't see him being much better than anything Kanter could possibly be.

 

[Hantlers]

Well it's pretty easy.


Some people posts less, but seems like there's more. Some people posts more, but seems like there's less.

I wonder which one you are...

 

[Hantlers]

We have a point guard who averaged 12/5/4 in his rookie season, granted Smart would defs be an upgrade on the defensive side of the ball.... Smart cant shoot at all either. Exum/Wiggins/Parker/Embiid or bust this draft tbh. Vonleh could maybe turn into something decent from what I've seen but I can't see him being much better than anything Kanter could possibly be.

Saying that Smart would be an upgrade compared to Burke defensively is a huge, huge understatement. It would be night and day difference. Smart is a great defender…Burke kinda sucks at it.

I think that they could easily play together though. Would I prefer to have Wiggins, Parker or Embiid? Of course…but I'm not going to be disappointed if we end up with Smart. He's still a good player.

 

[spycam1]

Smart will play both guard positions.

I think he can play with Burke. I also think a Smart/Burks combo would be an interesting back court combo.

The point is I think there's a place for Smart on this team. Having said that, I hope we're picking too high to even consider Smart.

 

[spycam1]

I just won the lottery three times in a row.

The Jazz have this, guys.

 

[The Midnight]

I just won the lottery three times in a row.

The Jazz have this, guys.

LOL.. thanks for the optimism. Would rep but I've given out too much today.

 

[Nate505]

Saying that Smart would be an upgrade compared to Burke defensively is a huge, huge understatement. It would be night and day difference. Smart is a great defender…Burke kinda sucks at it.

I think that they could easily play together though. Would I prefer to have Wiggins, Parker or Embiid? Of course…but I'm not going to be disappointed if we end up with Smart. He's still a good player.

Same here. Smart is the "worst" player I hope the Jazz end up with. I think his fire will translate into success in this league.

FWIW (and it's probably worth nothing) nbadraft.net has the Jazz taking Smart and Stauskas in the draft. I'd be pretty happy with that myself. At the very least it would add some character to this team, for better or worse.

 

[The Midnight]

My first time playing the lotto machine thingee-magic today: Boston with 1st pick took Jabari, Jazz with 2nd pick took Wiggins.

 

[BTP]

LOL.. what?


Even so, his shooting's still an issue for an SG.

You know this guy named Dwyane Wade can't hit a shot if he's more than 15 feet away from the basket. But he's doing other things so well it doesn't matter as long as his teammates provide enough spacing. There's also a couple successful but not overly successful shooting guards who can't hit a trey.
These guys named Monta Ellis and DeMar DeRozan shoot 30% but yet they find ways to contribute offensively. Lance Stephenson is shooting 33% and he's a big time playmaker and defender from the two spot. And I'm sure there's other guys I should have listed.

Marcus Smart may be the best defender in college right now, and he's certainly the best guard defender. While his shooting may not be great, it has improved while last year. Increased his assists while decreasing his turnovers, in addition to taking a larger role on the team. He is that teams heart and soul. He gets to the line easily, that's a skill that translates. He finishes at the rim, that's a skill that translates. He rebounds very well for a guard, that's a skill that translates. He defends his *** off, and he hustles more than any elite college player I've seen in a long time, that's a skill that translates. Put him in the open spacing of the NBA, and he's easily averaging 12/5/4 as a rookie, while providing excellent defense. That's a guarantee…you can quote me on that.

Getting to the line and finishing around the rim are skills that don't translate in every case. They translate very likely if you're like 70% on layups in the halfcourt in a conference filled with NBA bodies on your position. But then there's shooting 70% around the basket in the Sun Belt Conference
Same with whistles. I'm very sure I can find lots of NBA players who don't get as many whistles per 36 as they did in college. That's very conditional on your superiority.

LOL, you're talking like you're some hot ****.


Your boi Derrick Williams, Biyombo and Otto Porter are still projects.

While you guys are throwing mud at each other don't forget the guy who wanted Luke Babitt over PG24 and Gordon Hayward and was very vocal about it and is very vocal in this thread lately. I won't name names.

 

[The Midnight]

While you guys are throwing mud at each other don't forget the guy who wanted Luke Babitt over PG24 and Gordon Hayward and was very vocal about it and is very vocal in this thread lately. I won't name names.

LOL.. that's before my time. But don't tell me that it's Cy??????? (ONCE AGAIN!!)

 

[BTP]

LOL.. that's before my time. But don't tell me that it's Cy??????? (ONCE AGAIN!!)

As I said I don't wanna snitch But there was an ancient thread recently bumped by UGLI or whoever is the bump commander. And it was good pre/post draft discussion about the 2010 guys.