Kings open to trading 8th pick.
- Thread starter Shad
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Kanter will silence soon all the haters!
Kanter is better than whomever we'd get at #8, a 6'11" guy who rebounds, finishes inside and can shoot out to the 3pt line. If he were in this draft, I'm pretty sure he'd be top 7.
Stickler
Well-Known Member
Here's my long-shot offseason plan (that doesn't involve the 8th pick at all):
Wiggins and Embiid will go #1 and #2. I feel sure of that. Perusing 76ers boards, their fans seem to be split about 50-50 as to whether their team would pick Jabari or Exum. The fans seem to prefer Exum.
Meanwhile, (perusing the Magic boards) Orlando is rumored to prefer Smart to Exum. Would they prefer Smart to Parker? Probably not, but that doubt leads me to conclude there might be wiggle-room in trading up to #4 to assure that the Jazz would get Parker, in this scenario.
So if I'm Dennis Lindsey, and *if* the 76ers do pull off the surprise in drafting Exum at #3, I'm going to get on the phone with Orlando and offer them any player they want, plus the #5 and #23 (because in the end, I think Orlando would take Jabari over Smart and this is what it would take), for the #4 pick. They have the cap space to absorb Favors, and I assume that's what they would ask for. And I would give it to him.
Then I would sign Greg Monroe in free agency to replace Favors. Detroit has a logjam, and is willing to let Monroe walk.
Team looks like:
Burke /
Hayward / Burks
Parker / Evans
Kanter /
Monroe / Gobert
Fully recognizing that this is a very defensively weak team... I think the offense could put us back into the playoff picture, and we'd have to address defense piecemeal in the coming seasons.
Wiggins and Embiid will go #1 and #2. I feel sure of that. Perusing 76ers boards, their fans seem to be split about 50-50 as to whether their team would pick Jabari or Exum. The fans seem to prefer Exum.
Meanwhile, (perusing the Magic boards) Orlando is rumored to prefer Smart to Exum. Would they prefer Smart to Parker? Probably not, but that doubt leads me to conclude there might be wiggle-room in trading up to #4 to assure that the Jazz would get Parker, in this scenario.
So if I'm Dennis Lindsey, and *if* the 76ers do pull off the surprise in drafting Exum at #3, I'm going to get on the phone with Orlando and offer them any player they want, plus the #5 and #23 (because in the end, I think Orlando would take Jabari over Smart and this is what it would take), for the #4 pick. They have the cap space to absorb Favors, and I assume that's what they would ask for. And I would give it to him.
Then I would sign Greg Monroe in free agency to replace Favors. Detroit has a logjam, and is willing to let Monroe walk.
Team looks like:
Burke /
Hayward / Burks
Parker / Evans
Kanter /
Monroe / Gobert
Fully recognizing that this is a very defensively weak team... I think the offense could put us back into the playoff picture, and we'd have to address defense piecemeal in the coming seasons.
framer
Well-Known Member
If you think Smart is better than Burke, you could probably offer Burke to Sacramento and use our cap space to clean up their financial house for the #8 pick and they would jump all over that. There is also a chance you could pick up Exum at 5 then one of Gordon, Saric, or Randall at 8 (probably Gordon as the bigs would be too much for Boston or LA to pass up.) Then you would stash a Euro at 23 or sell it for second rounders. Maybe even give it to Sacramento to seal the deal. We could then re-sign the young guys we want to keep as Sacramento's junk falls off the payroll.
Losing Burke, but possibly coming out with Exum and Gordon would be a win, no? Our D would be spectacular and we could keep Kanter on the floor for extended minutes.
Losing Burke, but possibly coming out with Exum and Gordon would be a win, no? Our D would be spectacular and we could keep Kanter on the floor for extended minutes.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
How do you address defense piecemeal? You've already committed your payroll to those guys. This isn't football; they have to play both ways.
Scorpjazz
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Curious why the core 4 are off limits. None of them, NOT one, has shown the qualities of a SUPER star player. They each have some of the qualities but they all have too many flaws to be a game changer consistently. MAYBE Alec can eventually. I dont even know if your core 4 had him in it. But the others are all free to go for a chance at a super star game changer.. We have to get one somehow. None of them look realistically like they will blossom into that. I know us homers want to see what isnt there, but it aint happening.
IF we can keep them and add that game changer, then YES, Im all for that.
I truly think our core are very good and will become even better.
But, again, "very good" doesn't win a ring unless it is led by an alpha male superstar. Which we dont have
Stickler
Well-Known Member
You look for opportunities to improve the roster. You have a defensive specialist or two on the bench. Maybe you find a 3 and D guy and make Hayward your 6th man, a la Ginobili. It's up to the GM to find defensive players and up to the coach to mix them into the rotation in ways that make sense. Maybe we sign Avery Bradley as a backup 1 / 2. Maybe we figure out over a season or two whether or not Monroe and Kanter can improve defensively. And if not, maybe we figure out which one we want to keep, and replace the other one with a shot blocker/rebounder down the road.
On an NBA team, pieces come and go. Just because we (hypothetically) have this team and these players now doesn't mean we're locked into it for all time and we can never make a change or sign other players. You create a foundation and then improve it.
In my long-shot scenario, the question isn't whether Monroe is better than Favors, but whether Parker is. I'd take the risk.
#5 and #8
Randle & Gordon
Make it happen Lindsey.
Randle & Gordon
Make it happen Lindsey.
Hayward sign-and-trade for Rudy Gay and two picks gets it done. I think we could suck Jason Terry and Derrick Williams out of them too. I was sure Terry was coaching somewhere already, but now that he's not we can look forward to a season of talk about how he could be the next Jazz coach. He's a heady player and has that Earl Watson coaching potential.