I like Trey but this thread was started to see what we could get for Trey and #23. I am just saying that if some team loved Trey and they were willing to give us a top pick I would consider it. It isn't hating on him. I would probably be more willing to do it if the Jazz were able to get Exum with the 5th pick. Then I would trade Burke for another lottery pick if I was enamored with some one (i.e. Gordon, Saric, McDermott, Young etc).
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nateboz
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I'd trade Burke for and the #23 for as high as possible (#7) and as low as #12. Nothing less. And only if the Jazz draft Smart or Exum.
If we could move him for Rondo or Westbrook level players i'd be down with that. The only question what other pieces we'd have to let go to get one of the top tier guys.
If we could move him for Rondo or Westbrook level players i'd be down with that. The only question what other pieces we'd have to let go to get one of the top tier guys.
blackham9258
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I like Trey, but lets be clear: If he was coming out in this draft and had just led his team to the Final game and lost to lets say Shabazz Napier of UCON he would be battling out the 5th PG off the board late in the first round with Napier.
Napier is at best 20 and worst 30. Trey would be the same. There just aren't as many teams needing a PG in this draft and those that do, or are looking to be taking one don't necessarily want the PG as a starter. Napier is widely considered a very good back up PG who will likely be taken 22-28. Payton will likely be taken 14-21 and will likely be a back up as well.
PG's to be taken before Burke and Napier:
Exum
Smart
Payton
Ennis
and it is likely the latter 2 are expected to be back ups.
We have to come to grips with last years draft. IT WAS that bad! I felt we should have taken Steven Adams because I think he is a legit defensive center that will get better and better. That said Trey was a decent pick and in a draft where we were looking for a PG and leadership I was happy with the pick. But that doesn't mean he is a career starter. Right now and for the forseeable future he is a bottom 5 starting PG in the league.
If someone wants him, great! I would trade him and #23 if we could some how move up to #12-#16 if we can get a shooter like McDermott if he slips, Stauskis, or even moving up to get Payton or Ennis. But I just don't see any takers when few teams need a PG and their are 5 better than Burke in this draft.
Napier is at best 20 and worst 30. Trey would be the same. There just aren't as many teams needing a PG in this draft and those that do, or are looking to be taking one don't necessarily want the PG as a starter. Napier is widely considered a very good back up PG who will likely be taken 22-28. Payton will likely be taken 14-21 and will likely be a back up as well.
PG's to be taken before Burke and Napier:
Exum
Smart
Payton
Ennis
and it is likely the latter 2 are expected to be back ups.
We have to come to grips with last years draft. IT WAS that bad! I felt we should have taken Steven Adams because I think he is a legit defensive center that will get better and better. That said Trey was a decent pick and in a draft where we were looking for a PG and leadership I was happy with the pick. But that doesn't mean he is a career starter. Right now and for the forseeable future he is a bottom 5 starting PG in the league.
If someone wants him, great! I would trade him and #23 if we could some how move up to #12-#16 if we can get a shooter like McDermott if he slips, Stauskis, or even moving up to get Payton or Ennis. But I just don't see any takers when few teams need a PG and their are 5 better than Burke in this draft.
blackham9258
Member
I would trade Trey straight up for #16 or #19 if TJ Warren, Mcdermott, or Stauskis are still on the board. We need a wing scorer or shooter. Then take Jordon Clarkson from Missouri to be your PG. He has NBA size. Or take Napier at 23 and get a PG who can shoot.
I don't agree. We'll see how Smart does next year.
Exum hasn't done ****! He's better than Burke? What on earth are you basing that on? Workouts? Games against B rate Aussies?
From what I have read Exum has not worked out for anyone.
da ThRONe
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I think Smart is overrated. I see so many flaws in his game. IMO he's an great prospect if he's playing the point as a combo guard he's not nearly as valuable. I don't think he has the court vision, he's too turnover prone, and his above average dribbling skills and shiftiness won't allow him to get to the basket enough to overcome his inability to shoot consistently to be successful as a full-time PG.
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orangello
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Smart would have been drafted ahead of Burke last season.
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