.....this loss was inexcusable.

[carolinajazz]

Apparently, you havent been looking at the boxscore because Deron was +5 & out starting bigs were a collective -13 (Al -7, Paul -4, AK -2).
Next you look at the rebounding numbers -10 (Al + Paul = 12). Lastly, Portland was playing very long at the end of the game (deflections, blocks, boards) & Aldridge dominated Al in crunch time.

Fast don't lie but boxscores (esp in this sport) can be deceiving.

....there was enough blame to go around....but from the comments received by other posters....my suggestion that Deron needs to regroup and stop with the silly turnovers certainly has some merit!

 

[carolinajazz]

Sounds like someone is eating crow after declaring our schedule was full of chumps CJ. And pretty funny Stevie Wonder accusation after admitting you did not see the game. Pot calling kettle .....

...not the first time I've eaten crow...won't be the last, either!

 

[vslice02]

....didn't see any of this game...What does the box score tell me? Lots. I know Deron shot well and scored 30 plus points. But 6 assists and 5 turnovers by your point guard....is just not acceptable. It really all starts and ends with him. You can't make a good play....then come down and make a bad play....and think you've really accomplished anything. And that seems to be the case with Deron these days. The Jazz problems have been categorized as being "inconsistent".....and he's the most inconsistent of them all. When your point guard has 5 of the 17 turnovers.....your just not going to win many games. I'm sure there are other contributing factors, but again, it all starts and ends with your point guard. Anyone else seeing the same thing I'm seeing???

Let's call this Exhibit A of why you don't draw conclusions after only reading a box score.

Just one example where you're wrong: 1 of the TO's was a terrific wrap-around bounce pass to AK underneath the basket, but AK fumbled it out of bounds. -1 assist and +1 TO right there that's not on Deron.
If you want someone to blame, blame Millsap, Jefferson, Bell, Kirilenko. Not Deron.

 

[Nate505]

I love when the Jazz win there's never a new thread made about anything but as soon as they do trade threads, complaining, and anything else pops up out of no where.

That's classic Jazzfanz!

 

[YB85]

...they should...burn this thread...and then....burn the ashes!!!

 

[Qman]

We lost the game because we were extra sloppy. And because we couldn't stop Aldridge at all.

 

[DukeJazz]

Let's call this Exhibit A of why you don't draw conclusions after only reading a box score.

Just one example where you're wrong: 1 of the TO's was a terrific wrap-around bounce pass to AK underneath the basket, but AK fumbled it out of bounds. -1 assist and +1 TO right there that's not on Deron.
If you want someone to blame, blame Millsap, Jefferson, Bell, Kirilenko. Not Deron.

agreed. Did ak even play yesterday. Just don't remember him even there. I remember hayward more than ak.

 

[DukeJazz]

If sloan has hayward finish the 4th quarter trying to lead us back again i will have to jump over the seats and injure hayward just so sloan cant play him. Is he really our best 4th quarter closing shooting guard?

 

[carolinajazz]

Let's call this Exhibit A of why you don't draw conclusions after only reading a box score.

Just one example where you're wrong: 1 of the TO's was a terrific wrap-around bounce pass to AK underneath the basket, but AK fumbled it out of bounds.

....well, if Klinko fumbled the ball out of bounds...then he should have gotten the turnover, not Deron. Sometimes Deron tries to do the spectacular with his passes, or he's making passes to players who have a high probability of mishandling the pass...and he gets the turnover. I understand that. But if your point guard has only 1 more assist than he has turnovers....he's not contributed much to a winning outcome.

 

[franklin]

....well, if Klinko fumbled the ball out of bounds...then he should have gotten the turnover, not Deron. Sometimes Deron tries to do the spectacular with his passes, or he's making passes to players who have a high probability of mishandling the pass...and he gets the turnover. I understand that. But if your point guard has only 1 more assist than he has turnovers....he's not contributed much to a winning outcome.

vslice02 is right. It was AK's fault, and AK showed he knew it by the look he gave Deron immediately after. It wasn't an tough pass to catch at all. AK was concentrating on jumping to the hoop rather than on catching the pass, and fumbled a semi-soft, waste high pass out on the baseline.

 

[SojoDave]

If sloan has hayward finish the 4th quarter trying to lead us back again i will have to jump over the seats and injure hayward just so sloan cant play him. Is he really our best 4th quarter closing shooting guard?

I think the forth quarter had some strange line ups. Playing Memo on one leg with Earl and Hayward, I was literally yelling at my TV..."JERRY CALL TIME OUT AND GET THE STARTERS IN". Before I knew it, we were down by 8 and it was too late.

 

[vslice02]

....well, if Klinko fumbled the ball out of bounds...then he should have gotten the turnover, not Deron. But if your point guard has only 1 more assist than he has turnovers....he's not contributed much to a winning outcome.

That's not how they record statistics and why numbers in the box scores can sometimes lie. Because AK never had possession of the ball - the TO's always is rewarded to the passer.

There was another play in the 3rd where Millsap was filling the lane on a delayed-break and Deron passed it to him on the move and Millsap lost the ball point-blank at the rim. As far as assists go - you claim you didn't watch the game - so you have no idea how much Deron's 6 assists were him not making the proper passes and how much it was attributed to his teammates not being able to score the basketball.