would u trade hayward for kawhi leonard
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Jazz Insider
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what trade? i didnt say i would make any trade. you said u would not make the trade of sugar k for hayward, i just wanna know why bro. why bro?
Thee Jazz Fan
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It's threads like this that piss me off when someone questions what DL does and think they could do a better job as gm
Thee Jazz Fan
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Stop troll
Jazz Insider
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srsly tho. when i think of 'jazz-like' player, a black guy wit braids aint exactly the first image that pops in mind. just keepin it real. if u been in a nba lockroom, u know dis perception (based n reality or not--dats debatble) is real. its real bro. dont deny it.
Jamezz
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Yeah I can see it going over the top of a dumb bloke's head.
Jazz Insider
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im trying to have a civilized debate here, sir. please dont resort to namecalling since you lost the debate. accept ur loss like a man.
Thee Jazz Fan
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For me to lose a debate it would imply that I was in a debate. I don't debate with trolls
Jazz Insider
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thank you. finally some respect. some of these trolls should really contribute to this good debate or get a life/outta dis thread.
Jamezz
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It's people who bring up stereotypes who draw other people into talking about the unnecessary. If you wanted to have a serious discussion about this topic you sure did a lame *** job.
Jazz Insider
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ok well thanks for admitting i am not a troll. now, back to our debate: why do u say hayward is better than sugar k? or is that just ur opinion, man.
jope
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At first glance i thought this would be a run-away.... but upon further looking, at least statistically, they are closer than i thought, though really they are completely different players. Clearly GH is much better offensively (passing, shooting, FTs), and KL is a defensive stud(rebounding, stls, blks).....(i have a hunch both of those strengths are amplified by their situation on their teams)
framer
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No because Hayward is a better scorer and facilitator, the two things this team really needs right now. Additionally, Hayward on the iso is money, again something we need like air to breathe. Leonard is probably a better defender, but with Gobert and Favors as the future frontcourt, the other things Hayward brings are needed more on this team.
Jazz Insider
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stereotype or not, the reputation is real. i was simply bringin reality to the table bro. when people outside of utah think of a 'jazz-like' player, he aint a young black dude wit braids. just keepin it real, no offense.
Jazz Insider
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At first glance i thought this would be a run-away.... but upon further looking, at least statistically, they are closer than i thought, though really they are completely different players. Clearly GH is much better offensively (passing, shooting, FTs), and KL is a defensive stud(rebounding, stls, blks).....(i have a hunch both of those strengths are amplified by their situation on their teams)
bro, how did u make these charts? dis is the best post in this thread. pos train chooo choo.
Jazz Insider
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so youre sayin hayward is a better fit on the current roster.
how sure are we the current roster is the way to go, tho? doesnt seem to exactly be workin out to well, at the moment.
jope
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the charts are from bbref and i just quickly drew on them in adobe ID
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nope. Hayward's defense is fine, and his offense > Kawhis.
Imagine if Kawhi played for the 76ers.
Imagine if Kawhi played for the 76ers.
Jamezz
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This is arguable, is what Hayward brings offensively better than what Kawhi brings defensively in terms of what the final objective is, winning games? In other words, is the offensive drop down that Kawhi brings higher than the defensive drop down that Hayward would bring? It is a good debate, where crunch time numbers would also play a big part on deciding who is more valuable. I stick to my 1st take on it, Kawhi.