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would u trade hayward for kawhi leonard

nope. Hayward's defense is fine, and his offense > Kawhis.

Imagine if Kawhi played for the 76ers.
 
framer said:
No because Hayward is a better scorer and facilitator, the two things this team really needs right now. Additionally, Hayward on the iso is money, again something we need like air to breathe. Leonard is probably a better defender, but with Gobert and Favors as the future frontcourt, the other things Hayward brings are needed more on this team.
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This is arguable, is what Hayward brings offensively better than what Kawhi brings defensively in terms of what the final objective is, winning games? In other words, is the offensive drop down that Kawhi brings higher than the defensive drop down that Hayward would bring? It is a good debate, where crunch time numbers would also play a big part on deciding who is more valuable. I stick to my 1st take on it, Kawhi.
 
dalamon said:
nope. Hayward's defense is fine, and his offense > Kawhis.

Imagine if Kawhi played for the 76ers.
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at the same time: Kawhi's offense is fine, and his defense > Haywards.

Imagine defense winning championships. Imagine offense winning... how many games the Jazz won dis year? like 2 or somethin i think lol.
 
Jazz Insider said:
stereotype or not, the reputation is real. i was simply bringin reality to the table bro. when people outside of utah think of a 'jazz-like' player, he aint a young black dude wit braids. just keepin it real, no offense.
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That aspect wasn't even remotely crossing my mind until you brought it up, but thanks for reminding me that ignorance is still well alive in this time and age.
 
Jamezz said:
This is arguable, is what Hayward brings offensively better than what Kawhi brings defensively in terms of what the final objective is, winning games? In other words, is the offensive drop down that Kawhi brings higher than the defensive drop down that Hayward would bring? It is a good debate, where crunch time numbers would also play a big part on deciding who is more valuable. I stick to my 1st take on it, Kawhi.
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Leonard needs people to get him the ball in good spots to be affective on offense. He also plays next to a ton of good to great shooters and stars. He would be an even worse shooter and offensive player on our team as there is no one on this team to create space for him to operate and get good looks. Just think of what Hayward would do in a spurs uniform. Just because the numbers are similar doesn't mean they are even close to equals. Situations in this debate haven't even been considered and anyone that thinks Hayward's situation and environment is even close to the one KL is in u need to cancel your jazzfanz account. Simply put, and it's no contest. Hayward is the better player
 
Jazz Insider said:
at the same time: Kawhi's offense is fine, and his defense > Haywards.

Imagine defense winning championships. Imagine offense winning... how many games the Jazz won dis year? like 2 or somethin i think lol.
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we can get wing defense for a lot cheaper than potentially elite wing offense.

Pair Gordon with a stud defender at the 2-- officially obliterates any need for better wing defense from Hayward (who's good enough to begin with).

If Kawhi is the focal point of your team's offense, your team will have problems.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Leonard needs people to get him the ball in good spots to be affective on offense. He also plays next to a ton of good to great shooters and stars. He would be an even worse shooter and offensive player on our team as there is no one on this team to create space for him to operate and get good looks. Just think of what Hayward would do in a spurs uniform. Just because the numbers are similar doesn't mean they are even close to equals. Situations in this debate haven't even been considered and anyone that thinks Hayward's situation and environment is even close to the one KL is in u need to cancel your jazzfanz account. Simply put, and it's no contest. Hayward is the better player
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I don't feel like talking to you any more, back to the game.
 
dalamon said:
we can get wing defense for a lot cheaper than potentially elite wing offense.

Pair Gordon with a stud defender at the 2-- officially obliterates any need for better wing defense from Hayward (who's good enough to begin with).

If Kawhi is the focal point of your team's offense, your team will have problems.
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isn't hawyward the focal point of his team's offense tho? doesn't seem to be problem-less.
sugar k is the focal point of his team's defense. he contained the best player on the planet, perhaps best player of all time, in da finals.
 
Jamezz said:
I don't feel like talking to you any more, back to the game.
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Jazz Insider said:
isn't hawyward the focal point of his team's offense tho? doesn't seem to be problem-less.
sugar k is the focal point of his team's defense. he contained the best player on the planet, perhaps best player of all time, in da finals.
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Before you say something incredibly stupid you might want to do research first. Leonard did not contain LBJ and saying he might be the best ever isn't going to help your argument because we all know he isn't the best of all time. Lol
 
Thee jazz fan said:
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Before you say something incredibly stupid you might want to do research first. Leonard did not contain LBJ and saying he might be the best ever isn't going to help your argument because we all know he isn't the best of all time. Lol
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I said "perhaps." hope u can understand that, cuz I don't debate with trolls.
 
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