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Is this kind of thing still socially acceptable on the left?

Tom Pitt

Tom Pitt

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I was going through old Chris Rock stand up videos on youtube, and stumbled on this one. I'm a 90s kid and this video came out about 29 years ago. I am really surprised this was apparently socially acceptable to say at the time. This site seems more liberal leaning than the typical american. Would you say this is socially acceptable today on the left coming from a black man? It seems like the goal posts have shifted a bit


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It wasn't socially acceptable for 99.9% of people to say, but Rock was a very good black comedian, he was able to get away with it because he was making people think about it - like Richard Pryor, George Carlin, Lenny Bruce, etc, etc, etc.

If I recall, this was the bit that Michael Scott did in the Office and got in trouble for. Or was it David Brent?
 
Tom Pitt said:
I was going through old Chris Rock stand up videos on youtube, and stumbled on this one. I'm a 90s kid and this video came out about 29 years ago. I am really surprised this was apparently socially acceptable to say at the time. This site seems more liberal leaning than the typical american. Would you say this is socially acceptable today on the left coming from a black man? It seems like the goal posts have shifted a bit


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I didn't like this set then and I don't like it now.

Too many times hearing this joke before he said it from racist white dudes. This was an old joke when he did that set.
 
Sardines said:
I didn't like this set then and I don't like it now.

Too many times hearing this joke before he said it from racist white dudes. This was an old joke when he did that set.
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In fairness the 40 states with trashy white people living in a trailer eating mayonnaise sandwiches boinking their sister listen to John Cougar Mellenkamp was in it. Pretty funny that part haha
 
fishonjazz said:
I was years ago but not anymore
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It got old and tired really. When I was a kid it was everywhere, in the 70's and early 80's. Eenie meenie minie moe ended in "catch a N****er by the toe", and pollock, mexican, and black jokes were everywhere as kids. We didn't even really know what it meant. But now it is just tired and old and dumb. Time to move on, imo.
 
It's not just racial stand up, you could do this with a ton of general comedy movies from the past. In general it seems like society has less tolerance for mildly offensive material.

Maybe it's not society in general, but rather there is now a critical mass of people that either don't enjoy this type of comedy, or don't think this type of comedy should even exist.
 
AlaskanAssassin said:
It's not just racial stand up, you could do this with a ton of general comedy movies from the past. In general it seems like society has less tolerance for mildly offensive material.

Maybe it's not society in general, but rather there is now a critical mass of people that either don't enjoy this type of comedy, or don't think this type of comedy should even exist.
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Oftentimes, those people don’t enjoy much of anything and are always miserable about something.
 
AlaskanAssassin said:
It's not just racial stand up, you could do this with a ton of general comedy movies from the past. In general it seems like society has less tolerance for mildly offensive material.

Maybe it's not society in general, but rather there is now a critical mass of people that either don't enjoy this type of comedy, or don't think this type of comedy should even exist.
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I feel like there is pros and cons to the way we've gone culturally. political correctness actually originates from Bolshevism/soviet Russia where they would literally lie about certain things because it wasn't part of the party narrative. That scares me cause it seemed like a whole lot of people in the country are/were okay with that. Western civilization seems to have a rather robust immune system to ward off genuine far right extremism from becoming mainstream...what is called far right now days is often what middle of the road liberals advocated for in the 90s through 2005 or so. I actually think bolshavism/marxism/communism is just as dangerous as nazism but hardly anyone on the left I think would acknowledge that.. I mean it sure as hell killed more people and resulted in more oppression. I would venture to say some of the right that use the term wokeness are really just talking about what they perceive as cultural marxism or racial marxism. in the 60s, many prominent marxists in America said they'd use race to erode the fabric of the West. BLM for example is pretty clearly a marxist organization... one of the founders said it would be an honor to be compared to Mao who killed tens of millions of people... their website literally says one of their goals is to disrupt the nuclear family... and what did they do with the money they got...Bought 6 million dollar mansion haha!

Some of my favorite comedies came from mid 90s-mid 00s. It's not just race, everyone is so offended by everything I can't imagine some of those Adam Sandler/Chris Farley movies being made today. Can you imagine What Women Want with Mel Gibson being made today? haha. Instead they just make the opposite version poking fun at men which is socially acceptable but the latter isn't anymore... because men are less oppressed and can take it I guess would be the rationale. In the current cultural climate on the left, it seems the less oppressed a certain demographic is, the more ripe they are to be a punching bag. I'm not offering a critique of that, I'm just pointing it out. I think the part that is unhelpful, is it does occur to me, some data must not be acknowledged even if true because it doesn't fit a certain narrative. which is counter productive to solving problems eh? so there is certainly tradeoffs. There was maybe a little bit of a backtracking with that stuff leading to Trump winning the election...I mean as they say politics is downstream of culture.
 
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