ICE Shooting in Minnesota

A federal appeals court on Monday left in place its ruling against limiting federal agents’ actions against protesters and observers in Minnesota.

It’s the latest in a lawsuit brought by the American Civil Liberties Union alleging that federal agents are violating protesters’ and observers’ rights amid the ongoing surge of federal immigration agents to Minnesota.

A federal judge had issued an earlier injunction in the case, barring agents from interfering with peaceful protesters. That included detaining protesters and observers who had not committed a crime, and using crowd control methods like pepper spray and nonlethal munitions.

But the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals put that injunction on holdshortly after. The court said the order was too vague, after attorneys for the federal government argued that the injunction could limit agents’ ability to defend themselves and control crowds.

The ACLU asked the court to reconsider after the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti by federal agents on Saturday, citing “escalating, imminent risks” to protesters and observers. Attorneys for the ACLU submitted statements from two witnesses to that shooting, alleging that Pretti did not pose a threat to agents.

In its ruling Monday, the appeals court declined to reinstate the order limiting agents’ responses to protesters and observers. In their opinion, the judges wrote that the category of protesters and observers that the initial injunction seeks to protect is too broad, as protesters behave differently toward federal agents.

The judges also wrote that the injunction’s requirements for federal agents “are simply commands to ‘obey the law,’ which are ‘not specific enough.’”

The case will continue through an appeals process.



A Myanmar refugee nursing a five-month-old, arrested and shipped to Texas. A Mexican man who sustained severe skull injuries during an arrest by ICE and was shackled in the hospital against doctors’ wishes. A Kenyan woman detained after picking up seizure medication. A Ukrainian refugee arrested for no apparent reason.

In other words, an ordinary weekend for federal judges in Minnesota during Operation Metro Surge, the Trump administration’s mass deportation push in the Twin Cities.

The district’s seven full-time judges and 10 partially retired judges have been inundated by hundreds of emergency lawsuits from immigrants targeted by ICE during the operation. They’re working weekends to manage the backlog and juggling a crush of individual cases under intense national attention.

And in all but a handful of cases, those judges have ruled that the Trump administration violated the law, sometimes flagrantly.

The judges, representing appointees of nearly every president since Ronald Reagan, have grown increasingly alarmed by what they see as a pattern of defiance by the administration, shocking behavior by ICE and rampant targeting of people with no criminal history, despite Trump’s claim to be targeting “the worst of the worst.”

“Since November 2025, the courts of this District have thought of little else,” Judge Michael Davis said in a Sunday ruling criticizing the Trump administration’s “disingenuous” claim that one of his colleagues had given only a cursory review of its arguments. “It is a grave error to confuse efficiency with lack of rigor.”

Red said:

Even more baffling are the people who cheered Rittenhouse on, but are now enraged that Alex Pretti was carrying a legal weapon. Check out what Rittenhouse brought to a volatile situation, from another state. The Right defended him 100%. Alex Pretti? Not so much.
Interfered with the police? I’ve watched all the videos. Best I can determine he was executed. His crime was attempting to help a woman a border patrol agent had flung to the ground. Pretti was shielding her from the pepper spray, and trying to help her up. So he was executed. Not for one second did he interfer.

This is good, according to the Right. And he killed that night. So good!

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But, a man carrying a concealed weapon with a permit, never displaying it, never removing it from his holster, and photographing the activity, he deserved to die, right? As Trump, Bovino, Miller, Noem all indicated, he brought a gun with him! They said doing that means there is a good chance federal agents will kill you! Imagine that?! Federal agents can kill you for legally carrying a weapon. Second amendment doesn’t exist apparently. Which didn’t go over well with the NRA and others.

Why would you, or anyone, compare Pretti to Rittenhouse?? “Packed heat and interfered with the police”. No. No he did not, and you cannot look at any of the half dozen citizen videos and say he drew his weapon, or interfered in the least: he was helping a woman who had been pushed violently to the ground by an agent, and he was trying to shield her from pepper spray. For this he needed to die? He had a permit, there was no demonstration even taking place. A few observers using their phones to film agent activity. Thst’s legal.

Carrying a concealed weapon is legal. “Packed heat”. Yes, and Bovino and Noem said he carried that heat in order to massacre federal agents. Is that your take as well? Rittenhouse came to kill. Did Pretti come to kill? I see a difference, even if you don’t.

You buy into that crap too? He was an ICU nurse for veterans.

Here’s Pretti as an ICU nurse. What the hell is wrong with you that you are actually upset that people are not demanding the electric chair if he had actually lived?


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I agree Red. Didn’t you get that from my “two clip” MAGA comment? You are right that it is even more ridiculous.

My comment wasn’t about comparing the two events. I was simply ranting about the distorted, inconsistent logic the crazies use.

idestroyedthetoilet said:

I think further caution should be used given this is Trump’s ICE. I’ll risk being presumptive here: bad actors within ICE are emboldened by Trump administration’s nasty rhetoric. The **** coming from this guy and other high levels is beyond the pale. You don’t think a bad actor might interpret this as leadership having your back no matter how controversial your actions? That they can shoot first at the slightest whiff of personal danger, ask questions later?

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Of course. The rhetoric of Trump, Bovino, Miller, Noem, etc. have given a green light. But this was the case from the very day Donald Trump descended the escalator in Trump Tower, in 2015, and announced his run for the presidency. He also introduced to his potential followers, at that time, who “the other” would be: Undocumented human beings. Even though the vast majority were not criminal, not violent, and “the neighbors” to many, all good demagogues create “the other” for disaffected members of a society to focus anger, even hatred. That has been the case, with Trump’s rhetoric, for the entire time since that day in 2015. It’s one of the main arguments for avoiding fascist movements from the get go. Fascism is always motivated by highly negative emotions. And when the emotions seem noble, like “love of country”, it never stops there. Only certain people are “true Americans”, who can love this country. To VP Vance, your family needs to have been in the United States since the Civil War era. But overall, Trump's rhetoric has encouraged anger, hatred, and at times violence. So this rhetoric, that might give an ICE or Border Patrol agent the sense that he will be protected, has been there all along. Trump has been giving the OK to be a bad dude from the very start.

idestroyedthetoilet said:

I dunno, I look at this as how I would advise my children.

Green light:
Wearing wrong team jersey to a football game.

Use caution:
Driving, skiing, playing night games with friends, attending a protest at the capitol.

Definitely avoid:
Raping The Rock
Carrying an AR15 into an active riot
Joining an organized police agitator and disruption group actively stalking police. Arm yourself. Agitate police in a high tension environment that may be on the verge of riot or armed resistance, interfere with a police action and push an officer, resist arrest.

I think further caution should be used given this is Trump’s ICE. I’ll risk being presumptive here: bad actors within ICE are emboldened by Trump administration’s nasty rhetoric. The **** coming from this guy and other high levels is beyond the pale. You don’t think a bad actor might interpret this as leadership having your back no matter how controversial your actions? That they can shoot first at the slightest whiff of personal danger, ask questions later?

What the guy did without the current ICE context was beyond ill advised. Given the context it was outright stupidity. Ask yourself this before responding: do you have faith in the Trump administration to allow a full, independent investigation into ICE shootings and honestly hold bad actors accountable? I ****ing don’t.

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I already agreed that what the guy did was ill advised. But that is the end of the comparison.

Hence my fictitious comparison. Wearing the jersey of the wrong team to a sporting event is ill advised (lots of drunk testosterone filled passionate people that may want to fight you). So is raping the Rocks kids and definitely more ill advised.

Filming ICE while armed is ill advised.
Going to a place with lots of violence and anger with an AR15 with the intent to do some shootin is definitely more ill advised.

Its a poor comparison.

I try to withhold judgement in police shootings since it’s impossible to see all relevant information, but one thing that always sticks out is the actions of the other officers involved. I haven’t seen any comments on it in this situation and find multiple things seem relevant.

From the dash cam video, notice how nonchalant the single officer handling masked lady was. He’s casually supervising while others are beating the hell out of Pretti.

Then the shooting. Every video I recall of a police shooting with multiple officers present, every officer draws after the first officer draws and shoots. Most often they shoot as well. Not a single additional officer drew on Pretti. Gun grabber gun pranced off hunching his shoulders. The rest moved back just like the shooter and watched as he kept unloading. That’s telling to me.

Most Americans want illegal immigrants out of the country. If it was not for the significant failures of the Biden crime family administration and the open border sleep Joe instituted to try and buy votes for ****** democrat policies we wouldn't be in this mess. I love seeing videos of retard democrats wanting to leave America due to its "racism" and realizing they cant just go to some other country because every other country has immigration laws and restrictions. No other country would want these democrat retards either.


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fishonjazz said:

I already agreed that what the guy did was ill advised. But that is the end of the comparison.

Hence my fictitious comparison. Wearing the jersey of the wrong team to a sporting event is ill advised (lots of drunk testosterone filled passionate people that may want to fight you). So is raping the Rocks kids and definitely more ill advised.

Filming ICE while armed is ill advised.
Going to a place with lots of violence and anger with an AR15 with the intent to do some shootin is definitely more ill advised.

Its a poor comparison.

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You, Log and Red all read more into my comment than was intended. That’s my fault. I was simply ranting about the inconsistency of many comments (not here), not arguing the nuances of both situations. My complaint wasn’t even orthogonal to this situation really.

Just a reminder, illegal immigrants cant vote. They dont even want to if they could. Use logic. You are here illegally. Why take unnecessary additional risk of voting? You would do as little as possible that could leave a trail back to you. You would fly under the radar as much as possible. And again, they cant vote.

fishonjazz said:

Just a reminder, illegal immigrants cant vote. They dont even want to if they could. Use logic. You are here illegally. Why take unnecessary additional risk of voting? You would do as little as possible that could leave a trail back to you. You would fly under the radar as much as possible. And again, they cant vote.

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"Use logic."
LOL

Full Anderson Cooper interview of the woman who filmed Alex Pretti’s death:


“I watched him die”. Short segment of interview:



A patient at the VA hospital in Minneapolis:



Mac Randolph, the son of the veteran over whose body Alex Pretti spoke, speaks out. Pretti died exactly one year to the day of that service.


Alex Pretti's name is now known around the world. One reason is a viral video that shows Pretti standing over the body of a veteran who died and honoring his service.

Terry Randolph was a proud Airman.

"He was stationed in a Libya Air Force Base, he was in aeronautical communications," his son, Mac Randolph, said.

Communicating would become his career; he opened a public relations business. In the '80s, he hosted a gigantic welcome home for hostages during the missile crisis.

As Mac Randolph says, his dad was always "telling the right stories, being on the right side of history."

After seven decades of telling stories, they got news: his time was short. It was lung cancer.

"He didn't want to continue the route of treatment; he wanted to do hospice. This is when Alex really became someone my family really leaned on and answered a lot of questions during a really difficult time," Mac Randolph said.

It was Pretti, a 37-year-old man with a smile, who answered the hardest questions his father would ever have to ask.

"I would say he definitely made a sense of calm," Mac Randolph said.

A sense of calm he brought in the moments after Terry Randolph died as Pretti stood above his body and read one last tribute, thanking him for his service.

Pretti laid a plaque by Terry Randolph's body, saying, "Freedom isn't free. In this solemn hour, we grant our honor and gratitude."

"Someone so compassionate and just a good man, to think of him being portrayed as a domestic terrorist," Mac Randolph said with tears in his eyes.

In a split-second decision, he posted the video of Pretti over his dad's body as a testament to his character.

"I couldn't remain silent, I had to help in any way I could. I am lucky enough to have a little piece of evidence to shine a light on him and I hope people see it," Mac Randolph said.

And did they ever; Colbert, Kimmel and network after network shared the video.

Mac Randolph says his dad and Pretti are forever connected.

"He would have wanted to be a part of this, he was a storyteller and this is his last act, and he's on the right side of history again," he said.

Pretti was killed one year to the day after Terry Randolph's celebration of life

A week before he died, Alex Pretti had another encounter, in which an agent broke one of his ribs.


Federal immigration officers have been collecting personal information about protesters and agitators in Minneapolis, sources told CNN – and had documented details about Alex Pretti before he was shot to death on Saturday.

It is unclear how Pretti first came to the attention of federal authorities, but sources told CNN that about a week before his death, he suffered a broken rib when a group of federal officers tackled him while he was protesting their attempt to detain other individuals.

In a statement, the Department of Homeland Security said that “DHS law enforcement has no record of this incident.”

A memo sent earlier this month to agents temporarily assigned to the city asked them to “capture all images, license plates, identifications, and general information on hotels, agitators, protestors, etc., so we can capture it all in one consolidated form,” according to correspondence reviewed by CNN.

Pretti’s previous encounter is another reflection of the aggressive approach federal agents are taking with observers and protesters – a philosophy underscored by the request for agents to collect information about protesters whose activities are broadly protected by the First Amendment.

DHS has repeatedly warned of threats against federal law enforcement officers during immigration enforcement operations—and criticized protesters who they argue are impeding those operations. On Tuesday, the department also publicized an online tip form to share information about people allegedly harassing ICE officers.

“When our law enforcement encounter a violent agitator who is breaking the law, obstructing law enforcement or assaulting them, our law enforcement make records to advance prosecution. This is not ground breaking, it is standard protocol,” said DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin in a statement.

The earlier incident started when he stopped his car after observing ICE agents chasing what he described as a family on foot, and began shouting and blowing his whistle, according to a source who asked not to be named out of fear of retribution.

Pretti later told the source that five agents tackled him and one leaned on his back – an encounter that left him with a broken rib. The agents quickly released him at the scene.

“That day, he thought he was going to die,” said the source.

Pretti was later given medication consistent with treating a broken rib, according to records reviewed by CNN.