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Following potential 2014 draftees

Who exactly? Beal plays shooting guard soo?

Trevor Ariza. One of the leagues best wing defenders and best 3pt shooters.

Why are you using a bad rookie year for a guy I liked in a weak draft against me? How can you be so ignorant to judge a player who has barely been given ample opportunity to prove his worth? If he was on the Jazz and getting stiffed for minutes, everyone would say "Oh give him time, the coaching staff just hates rookies!", but you are just trying to be an *** and find anything about my past predictions to disprove anything I say, even when what I'm saying makes sense.
 
36% is considered average. 40% is considered above-average.

There were over 100 players in college who shot above 42.7% from 3 this year, with a minimum of a little over 2 shots a game. 40% from deep in college is not elite, unless if you're shooting a lot while being covered a lot (JJ Redick, Salim Stoudamire, etc).

Average my ***.
 
Trevor Ariza. One of the leagues best wing defenders and best 3pt shooters.

Why are you using a bad rookie year for a guy I liked in a weak draft against me? How can you be so ignorant to judge a player who has barely been given ample opportunity to prove his worth? If he was on the Jazz and getting stiffed for minutes, everyone would say "Oh give him time, the coaching staff just hates rookies!", but you are just trying to be an *** and find anything about my past predictions to disprove anything I say, even when what I'm saying makes sense.

Why would I believe anything you say.
 
Average my ***.

Yes, 36% from deep is average in college. As evidenced in the over 100 players shooting over 42% from three in college this year, one would imagine there are a couple hundred players in-between 36% and 42%. That would make 36% average. Not that difficult chap.
 
Ok, fine.

Why would you not be surprised if he went in the lottery? Who should he go over if he were to go in the lottery, and why?

Pre-season was supposed to go in the lottery. Huge tourney. Dumb-*** teams in the NBA. Clutch. Gordon Hayward went 9th overall after a tourney run. Nobody knew who he was before that.
 
smart shot .290% and .299% from 3. and harrison barnes was picked #7.

these twins are projects. they are not a finished product. and it's hard to score a lot for this kentucky team. balls move a lot and everybody is so talented. and you are underrating badgers D.

Smart actually plays defense. Smart can rebound. Smart can score. Not the best creator, definitely not the best shooter, but the man has produced.

Yes, Harrison Barnes was picked at #7, and it was a mistake. I believe that's the point here.
 
Yes, 36% from deep is average in college. As evidenced in the over 100 players shooting over 42% from three in college this year, one would imagine there are a couple hundred players in-between 36% and 42%. That would make 36% average. Not that difficult chap.

Easy for you to say. 36% from 3 on 4.4 attempts. Find me players who are better than that with atleast the same amount of attempts.
 
That 36% 3pt shooting on the season, 43% from the field, is now considered elite?

He definitely has potential as a 3pt shooter though, I will give him that. Not going to call it elite.

And that is only Aaron. Andrew ain't got shooting at all.

obviously UK struggled all season long. but the team is clicking at a right time. now you see the true potential of this team. without the harrison twins they don't beat wichita st. without them they lose to ville. without them they don't beat michigan.

if you are judging them by what they've done in the season then you are not doing it right. put your GM hat on for godsake.
 
Why would I believe anything you say.

When did I say you had to believe anything I said? Not asking you to accept everything I say, but when you are losing an argument and you have to resort to calling out "Otto Porter is having a bad year" it makes you look dumb as ****. Same goes for KKK.

Maybe I was wrong about Porter and he will forever be a scrub, but you would be even dumber to judge him off 1 season where he has been injured and barely given opportunity.
 
Except neither of them can do the only thing that makes Alec not awful, which is finish contested shots at a very high rate.

What are you talking about?

They finish fine at the rim and get to the free throw line just fine.

They might not be as polished as Alec, but they're only freshmen.

They might not be knocking off Stockton or Magic in assists anytime soon. But for freshmen, they're exceptional. They're talented. Not worth a top 10 pick. But Definitely worth the GS pick IMO.

They don't suck, as some of you have said tonight.
 
Pre-season was supposed to go in the lottery. Huge tourney. Dumb-*** teams in the NBA. Clutch. Gordon Hayward went 9th overall after a tourney run. Nobody knew who he was before that.

Anybody who followed college basketball knew who Gordon Hayward was.

Again, what skills does the Harrison twin with the big balls have that make him a lottery talent? Average shooting? Average size for a SG? Below-average defense? Below-average ability to create? Below-average rebounding?

I'd take him in the 20's because he's young and could/should improve, but he's not anything close to a lottery talent IMO.
 
When did I say you had to believe anything I said? Not asking you to accept everything I say, but when you are losing an argument and you have to resort to calling out "Otto Porter is having a bad year" it makes you look dumb as ****. Same goes for KKK.

Maybe I was wrong about Porter and he will forever be a scrub, but you would be even dumber to judge him off 1 season where he has been injured and barely given opportunity.

Makes me not want Aaron Gordon anymore.
 
Smart actually plays defense. Smart can rebound. Smart can score. Not the best creator, definitely not the best shooter, but the man has produced.

Yes, Harrison Barnes was picked at #7, and it was a mistake. I believe that's the point here.

you obviously didn't watch these twins play D. i was impressed with their tenacity and willingness to play D. very raw, but i project them to be a good defender in the next level.

barnes was a good choice. but he didn't work on his game and didn't get better from his very good rookie campaign.
 
Anybody who followed college basketball knew who Gordon Hayward was.

Again, what skills does the Harrison twin with the big balls have that make him a lottery talent? Average shooting? Average size for a SG? Below-average defense? Below-average ability to create? Below-average rebounding?

I'd take him in the 20's because he's young and could/should improve, but he's not anything close to a lottery talent IMO.

Lottery ends at 14 and you say 20's not that far away. A good championship game, a good combine, one or two good workouts and he's there. Average size for a shooting guard, better than average shooting.
 
What are you talking about?

They finish fine at the rim and get to the free throw line just fine.

They might not be as polished as Alec, but they're only freshmen.

They might not be knocking off Stockton or Magic in assists anytime soon. But for freshmen, they're exceptional. They're talented. Not worth a top 10 pick. But Definitely worth the GS pick IMO.

They don't suck, as some of you have said tonight.

This.
 
at worst aaron harrison will be a decent shooter with range. he will defend because of his size and athleticism. bust potential is there, no doubt. he was inconsistent all year long.

but his ceiling is higher than smart IMO.
better NBA size, better overall athleticism, ability to make clutch shots, and shown a good handle and ability to make plays in the tourney.

honestly, he should stay 1 more year. that would be ideal. but these kids never stay.

Certainly your opinion , but Jesus Christ...smh.
 
Easy for you to say. 36% from 3 on 4.4 attempts. Find me players who are better than that with atleast the same amount of attempts.

Would it be difficult for me? Yeah, I'm not a college athlete. We're also not discussing my skills, they don't matter.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/seasons/2014-leaders.html

There, you can find it there. It only lists 20, but that leaves you at 42.6%, one would imagine there are plenty more once you get in the mid 30's range.

Again, there is nobody that considers 36% to be that good of a shooting number from deep, especially when you consider that he wasn't covered that much since Randle took so many double teams. He has done nothing to prove that he is nothing more than an average shooter.
 
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