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    Clayton or Collier?

    LOL at how a this topic has devolved into an insult-fest. Personally, and based on limited info, I think Clayton will have the longer and better career than Collier, if not as starter, then as a quality bench/role player. Clayton isn't perfect, but he lacks a glaring flaw that (other than...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Why would us landing AJ or Boozer fuel conspiracy theories? If anything, it would do the opposite, as nobody outside Utah cares about the Jazz, and we're certainly not a team the NBA FO wants to promote for ratings and media eyeballs. There's little incentive from where I sit to rig the game in...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    That NBA players significantly boost performance in contract years has always struck me as a cliche and not necessarily evidence-based. For what it's worth, I did a quick search using different AI programs, and below is their conclusions. I don't claim this settles the question, but it tends...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Like Sexton, I think Collin's is underrated by NBA observers and has, for reasons I don't quite understand, acquired a not-so-good rep. I am actually glad for him that he can now play meaningful games and contribute (hopefully) to winning. Given that we've spent the last 2 years or so trying...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    You may well be right. And, he may be the best we can get for our cap space money. If so, God help us. We aren't winning anything, anytime soon.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    At least we can sell hope and talk ourselves into them, as we don't have enough data points to say yay nor nay definitively. I think it'll be harder to sell hope for someone for whom we have four years of data points, pointing mostly downward. The team that signs Kuminga is the team that...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Age is irrelevant if someone isn't very good. There are lots of so-so 20 somethings in the league. Why not stock our roster with them if that's your idea of team building? He's had 4 years to prove himself, and rather than doing so, he's played himself into a benchwarmer role. At THAT's who you...
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    Jazz trade John collins

    Why the hell would the Jazz trade for Kuminga? How does using cap money to acquire a guy who couldn't get playing time on a team the desperately needed more wing talent and who's never come close to sniffing his potential after four years in the league help the Jazz win? Ainge can't be that...
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    Game Thread Jul 05, 2025 07:00pm: 76ers Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    I don't put that on Ace, I put that on whatever scheme the Jazz were running. I assume their plans are more than to use him as a corner three guy, but that's pretty much what he was in the second half. It's up to the coaching staff to figure out how best to utilize and develop him. But, it's...
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    Game Thread Jul 05, 2025 07:00pm: 76ers Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    A few observations: 1. In the second half, the Jazz buried Ace at the corner 3 and ran almost zero actions for him. He was largely a bystander. When he did get involved, he seemed to be forcing it rather than playing in the flow of the game, as the flow had largely frozen him out. I hope they...
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    Keeping Lauri seems increasingly pointless

    Basing the success of one's strategy on getting lucky may work for dance hall lotharios, but it's not necessarily the most reliable strategy for building a winning basketball team. I infer from Houston's action that they were sick of losing, didn't see winning in their near future with the...
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    Keeping Lauri seems increasingly pointless

    I don't get this insistence that the Jazz absolutely MUST be on a certain timeline. There's no reason, in theory at least, why the Jazz couldn't pivot reasonably quickly if a core emerged in this or next season, while maintaining the flexibility and assets to make major or incremental moves that...
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    Keeping Lauri seems increasingly pointless

    I'd hate to be the team building around Scoot and Holland. It may be bleak in Utah, but a team built around those two would be as if not more bleak.
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    Utah Jazz Select Ace Bailey, Pick 5

    I've been to San Antonio and Sacramento. Sacramento is pretty good, is near the mountains and outdoor opportunities, is much less expensive than the Bay Area (or was), and not a bad place at all. San Antonio, IMHO, is a dump. Didn't like it at all. I generally strongly dislike Texas. The one...
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    Juzang Waived

    I hope so. Unlike some (cough cough Gordon Hayward), I like to see former Jazzmen succeed (although I never wanted Hayward to get injured, just suck). Juzang is a good shooter, so I hope he finds a gig somewhere else. He'll never be more than a serviceable role player, but as we saw with OKC...
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    Collin Sexton traded to Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic

    I'm not a GM. I don't get paid to make those decisions, nor do I posses a special knowledge or skill set that makes me ideally suited to make them. I'm only observing that the tanking discourse here (and elsewhere in the NBA mediascape) has reached absurd levels of irrational confidence in...
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    Collin Sexton traded to Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic

    And if we get none of those guys, then another "one more year fellas?" I'm beginning to come around to the opinion that speculating in the draft lottery delivers a similar dopamine hit that gambling at the Vegas tables delivers. The excitement of potential draft wins and even the near wins...
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    Collin Sexton traded to Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic

    How does that make us better and able to pivot to contention anytime in the next century?
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    Collin Sexton traded to Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic

    It depends on what you mean by "win the trade." Presumably, the FO acts rationally in that it only makes a trade that it believes makes the team better off, whether in short, medium, or long term. Thus, almost by definition, it "wins" every trade. However, if you're suggesting that the FO should...
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    Collin Sexton traded to Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic

    You'd think Charlotte would be done with tanking by now. Multiple lottery and top 5 picks over the last 21 years with only three first round exists to show for it. And people STILL think Charlotte should be tanking. This highlights just how absurd and detached from reality the tanking obsession...
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