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Correct. Their best asset was the #2 pick that they “acquired” due to tanking. That’s probably going to be the same case for us - at least in the near future.

I think MEM and NOP should be our models. Small markets that cashed in on some all-stars, tanked for a couple years and both are in excellent positions for the next few years. One correction though, MEM finished 2 in the west this year.

So, given our pick could convey to OKC in 2026 (which is the latest it could convey - and cool side note, if it doesn't convey then, it's just extinguished - no 2nd rounder or anything), then the earliest pick we could send out in a trade today would be our 2028 1st rounder, is that right?

This is a dumb question, but I figure someone here should be able to explain how things work. I'm curious how it works trading future picks when the team sending out the pick already has an outgoing pick that's protected and can roll over to subsequent years. For example, our 2024 1st rounder...

Plus, if they did, there's zero chance that BKN ends up with Mitchell and we end up with Barnes in this scenario.

Soooo, are we thinking something happens today? Or do we think we're standing pat until some of the other dominos fall?

Moratorium ends today, right?

I think I'm like most here when I say that, if we are going to trade Donovan and tank, I don't like the idea of getting involved with the Miami's or Toronto's of the world. Obviously, if we're tanking and trading Donovan, the biggest assets we'd be getting would be unprotected first round...

Not sure what you’re referring to. I’ve made no mention of covid/vaccines. How does that play into this at all?

There’s a difference between being a good teammate and an unlikable teammate. Rudy just didn’t seem likable

Rudy seems like a very likable person. However he seems like a very unlikable teammate.

Not saying I’m advocating for this, but what would everyone’s reaction be to the following? BKN gets Mitchell + Ayton PHX gets Durant UTA gets Simmons and 4 unprotected 1sts and 3 pick swaps from PHX + any available draft assets BKN can offer. I could see Ainge entertaining that offer...

Seems like both us and BKN would want a haul of picks to go along with a move like this. I don’t think PHX can satisfy those demands. If this is legit, this has got to be a monster deal with another team (possibly more) involved to make everything work.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but by waiting until after the draft, Ainge was able to get both Walker (their 2022 pick) as well as 4+ picks, as opposed to if he did the trade pre-draft, he’d only have been able to get Walker + 3 picks - is that right?

Yes. It is.

Gotta think this is the FO just posturing for now. Letting other teams know if you want Donovan, you're going to have to really pony-up.

@bigmike for the win!

Ah, next year will be nostalgic. It was always great hoping for another team, whose pick you had, to lose every night. Fond memories of previous seasons when I could root for the Nets, or Warriors, or Knicks to lose. Looks like this year it'll be Philly.

I’m hoping for a Gobert trade to either ATL or CHI for some good young assets + 1 future first rounder. I’m then hoping for a Donovan trade to a perennial cellar dweller like Orlando or Sacramento for 1 good young asset and as many future 1st rounders + pick swaps as possible.