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  1. underdog

    Collier Starting Over Keyonte: Are We Happy?

    Ok now you’re trying to get off the hook and jump out of the boat.
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    Collier Starting Over Keyonte: Are We Happy?

    What makes you think I’m projecting his development? I’m not projecting anything. You’re putting words into my mouth. I just disagree with your trashing of Collier.
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    Collier Starting Over Keyonte: Are We Happy?

    Collier has played in the league for less than three months. And you trash him already. The kid’s been one of the top playmakers in the league since he started getting more minutes. And you trash him. Three, four, five years from now? Who knows. But give me a break.
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    Collier Starting Over Keyonte: Are We Happy?

    I'm tired of reading this kind of s***t on this board. Let our rookies and young players breathe. Key and Collier have a lot of stuff to learn, but so do other players their age.
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    Collier Starting Over Keyonte: Are We Happy?

    I like it. We’ll never become a contender without good defense and playmaking. Collier has averaged 8.6 assists per game in the last 10 games where he played more than 25 minutes per game. At that pace, he would rank 6th in the league, just ahead of Harden (8.3 AST per game) and behind...
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    Looking ahead to 2025-2026

    Yeah, real nice prospects coming up in the 2026 draft.
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    I want the Jazz to lose.

    I disagree. We can be unhappy about a solution, cry about it (as people often do), etc., but I don’t think we should criticize whoever put it in place unless we can provide a better solution or tell where to find it. It’s as simple as that—nothing “silly” about it.
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    I want the Jazz to lose.

    Ok you start your post by saying you understand why teams tank, but then you give a lot of reasons why they shouldn’t. What would you do if you were a GM for the Nets, Raptors, Hornets, Wizards, Pelicans, and Jazz (all tanking this season)? What would be your alternative for each team, given...
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    2024-2025 Tank Race

    Damn it, just checked it and CHA lost
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    Jackpotting Around Podcast: Episode 27 - Trader Danny Bets on Chaos

    Thanks guys. Fun and solid episode from start to finish.
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    2024-25 Trade Rumors Thread

    Yes. It looked like Riley initially thought he could keep him. But then Jimmy put on his Sun color shoes.
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    I want the Jazz to lose.

    After reading your post, I wonder if you’ve ever considered that teams choose to pivot and tank when it’s their best or sometimes only reasonable option in their situation to move forward.
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    I want the Jazz to lose.

    I said we shouldn’t criticize the league for the problems (with tanking) unless we can present a better solution than what’s already in place. And you called that “silly” and said it’s ok to identify a problem without giving a solution. You said, “It doesn't take a genius to recognize that...
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    2024-25 Trade Rumors Thread

    Yeah, you would think they want to get this thing done as soon as possible.
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    I want the Jazz to lose.

    Lauri hasn’t changed. Just look at how our guards (except Collier) play, and you can see why Lauri’s FG attempts are down. Put Lauri on a team that moves the ball, and he'll shine as before.
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    I want the Jazz to lose.

    Yeah, it’s a problem. But criticizing the league for it is just talk unless you’ve got a solution that’s better than what’s already in place. The issue is complex. And we’d be wrong to think the league hasn’t tried hard to solve it or that they won’t have other cracks at it.
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    I want the Jazz to lose.

    You say you’re not an NBA fan anymore. But that’s how the cookie crumbles in the NBA and has crumbled for a long time. Teams tank to get a shot at drafting top players. As far as “mysterious injuries,” teams use various tactics to tank, but lying about injuries isn’t one of them (or at least it...
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    2024-2025 Tank Race

    You got to be kidding lol
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    Game Thread Jan 20, 2025 06:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ New Orleans Pelicans

    tank battle going down the wire
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    Game Thread Jan 20, 2025 06:00PM MT: Utah Jazz @ New Orleans Pelicans

    Collier starting to look better and better out there. Nice to see.
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