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Agree 100%. Pistons win was an aberration. They got Sheed (who was still a great player at that time) right before deadline, Mail got injured, and stars aligned for them. It hasn't happened before nor since. That's why I was pretty upset when we gave up top PG for an array smaller assets. But...

Hayward is a SF, always has been, and played that position for the Jazz last year. There is no need to have a ridiculous debate that Marvin and Hayward are both SFs. The fact you had high hopes for Marvin just shows you have not been paying much attention to his career nor to Hayward. The...

When the trade was made Marvin was washed up and overpaid, and in addition he played the same position as Hayward, who was already better than him at the time and younger. The trade was a blunder from the moment it was made. Ironically the fact Marvin is now injured is actually better for the...

Actually, this makes a lot of sense. Yes, Bogut is injury prone and way overpaid, but he has expiring contract. We do need a solid veteran big to add to Kanter and Favors. Neither of these 2 has proven to be an 82 game solid starter. Favors was given an opportunity last year and was average in...

Why don't we make a pitch for Howard? It seems Rockets are the front runners, and we had similar record as they did last year, while younger, and plenty of CAP room.

What's ****ing retarded was giving up expiring contract for him in the first place, when we already had a much younger and already better player in Hayward playing the same exact position. Talk about complete and total idiocy: taking on additional 8 mil of salary in the year when we are actually...

I did not realize this thread was going way back. In other words, what you were suggesting is: when we got rid of Deron, and got Kanter and Burks in the draft, you are saying we should have started rebuilding process with dumping AJ and Millsap for nothing but draft picks (and possible short...

I see and agree with you about importance of getting a better pick, but the Jazz are simply too good to finish at the bottom right now. They are in the worst possible spot between 8th play-off spot/sure 1st round loss or just miss the play offs and get the worst lottery selection. If we sit our...

So much for "owning" Pop. Corbin didn't even give clear instructions to Williams who was going to shoot. The fact someone called trying to get a steal first before fouling in a game we lost "a masterpiece" is a testament on how much the standard has been lowered and how pathetic the coach really...

He was a scrub 5 games ago and he is a scrub now. We finally have our perhaps best player starting games at the position where we had only scrubs competing with him. He is now getting big minutes and also being the youngest by far at the position. And guess what, he is doing better than these...

Well?

Listen, I am not saying every game Hayward will play is going to be all star caliber, like last night. But to put this in perspective for you, he scored more points in 1 game, had two more 3s, 1 less assist and steal as a starter than Carroll did in his entire 5 game stint. In other words, in...

Indeed - what an amazing concept: playing a much better player, who also happens to be younger and have tons more potential over a scrub veteran. I doubt Burks will be getting more PT at PG though any time soon. It took Corbin almost entire season to realize that 22 year old Hayward, who is not...

Hayward has done better than NBA scrubs Carroll and Marvin when he started, and let's not forget he is 4 years younger than them. Finally Corbin did something that was obvious even to a complete moron, which is to start a good young player over scrubs and play him more minutes. And no, he did...

Carroll and Marvin Williams are scrubs and it is tough for them to go against the best players in NBA to start games. Big Al has nothing to do with it. What is not obvious to me is why our best SF by FAR, who also happens to be the youngest and has most potential - Hayward - is on the bench...

The argument that Hayward should stay on the bench and play fewer minutes than last year in favor of Marvin because Al, Millsap, and Foye's attempts just does not seem to make sense when Paul George is able to get plenty of opportunities with West, Hill, and Hibbert attempting as much or more...

That's a great point. People are bitching so much about Al and Paul, but these guys actually held their own tonight against Griffin and Jordan. Look at the other 3 starters though: Foye, Tinsley, and Marvin combined for 0-9 shooting, 0 FT attempts, and 0 points. This is pretty much as bad as it...

That is a fair point. I don't know if he was radically better, but this argument can certainly be made. The statement that Hayward is radically better than Marvin and deserves more minutes though I don't believe is even an argument that needs to be debated. It seems so obvious, that everyone but...

David West averages one less FG attempt per game than Al, and Paul George still gets enough shot opportunities. My point here is that Hayward should start and play nearly entire game, leaving only 8-10 mins behind for Marvin or others at SF position. Yes, some of these minutes will be with Al...

Well, I think Marvin picking up 8-10 mins behind Hayward is not too much of a stretch, after all he is not a complete disaster for a bench player. Yes, grossly overpaid, and makes KOC looks like an idiot for trading an expiring contract for him instead of having extra 8 mil of CAP space next...