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  1. Sub-Odeon

    Karl Malone's Press Conference Link Inside

    Thanks for the link! I can't wait to hear this.
  2. Sub-Odeon

    'More-Fair-Than-ESPN' Article by Yahoo's Adrian Wojnarowski

    Sloan taught by example for 23 years. Hard to fault him for deciding it's not worth his time anymore trying to coach a bunch of overpayed, egotistical punks.
  3. Sub-Odeon

    How would you feel if........

    It's not going to happen. These guys will not pull a Favre. They are sick of the bull**** from the young players and the press and they are out.
  4. Sub-Odeon

    Utah Jazz vs Pheonix Suns - ESA - 8:30p mst - February 11, 2010

    I have a hunch not much changes. Deron will probably freelance a lot more than usual, and this will probably lead to fewer assists, more turnovers, and even worse defense. Only way this works to Utah's advantage is if Deron and the guys run, run, run and run some more. PHX is a fast-tempo...
  5. Sub-Odeon

    Of past and present, and a franchise's identity

    Yep, I am back in Utah. Bought a house up by Hill AFB, and work in Salt Lake. I'm a Warrant Officer in the Army Reserve now, and have had some success selling some fiction too. Daughter is doing great, wife is doing well, life is actually remarkably good. Which is why Jerry leaving like this...
  6. Sub-Odeon

    Will Deron get booed tomorrow?

    Deron will get booed. Book it. Public perception is squarely with Jerry on this one, whether Deron actively drove Jerry out or was just too contentious and too argumentative for Jerry to deal with any more. The public perception is that Deron and the team have been sandbagging since December...
  7. Sub-Odeon

    Jerry Sloan and Phil Johnson Appreciation Thread

    THIS THIS THIS THIS! That was Sloan's finest hour! Few coaches in the league could have taken that squad to a winning record. That was all SYSTEM right there, not stars. Almost makes me wish we had that team back. Because I feel like our current crop, barring a few of the very young kids...
  8. Sub-Odeon

    'More-Fair-Than-ESPN' Article by Yahoo's Adrian Wojnarowski

    Thanks for this link! The OP's article was good -- I found it interesting -- but the Post's article was the best take on things I've seen yet.
  9. Sub-Odeon

    Jazz coaching staff MUST get Horny.

    If Hornacek comes on as assistant coach, he will be the prime cadidate for head coach by the end of the summer. No offense to Ty, who is nice, but until he proves otherwise I am not sure Ty is head coach material. Hornacek has the best pedigree for this, next to someone like Stockton. And...
  10. Sub-Odeon

    I hate to do this but I have to agree what Kobe said:

    fallenchicken, so, should we just dispense with coaches altogether? Let the players call all the shots and run the practices? You are wrong, in the Jazz system, Sloan was the "god" of the system. Larry Miller understood this and backed Sloan at every step. Deron thinks he is smarter than...
  11. Sub-Odeon

    I hate to do this but I have to agree what Kobe said:

    Kobe Bryant? Really?? Not the best source of opinion in my book, as he's going to side with his fellow egotist players 20 times out of 20.
  12. Sub-Odeon

    Of past and present, and a franchise's identity

    Hi JF2814! (waves) For everyone defending Deron, it's essentially cemented in the public perception now that Deron Williams forced Sloan out. Whether or not this is fact or not is immaterial. The word on the street is that Deron was arguing and bickering with Sloan, punctuated by the events...
  13. Sub-Odeon

    Will Jazz fans kill the Utah Jazz franchise?

    Malone was an occasional crybaby, due to his ego. Stockton will forever be above Malone in Utah's eyes for this reason. If Malone had kept his whining to himself, they'd share equal space in Utah's heart. Alas. If Sloan taught Utah fans anything, it was to love players who are selfless and...
  14. Sub-Odeon

    Hear for Yourselves. Deron on 1320 right now

    Very little short of a maximum-potential, heroic effort by Deron for the rest of the season will rescue his reputation now. Fair or not, he's put himself squarely under the gun. Time for him to put up huge numbers and huge effort, or shut up and get out.
  15. Sub-Odeon

    Will Jazz fans kill the Utah Jazz franchise?

    Perhaps. But D-Will has been the one acting like his hall-of-fame coach is the one with the problem. If D-Will wanted Sloan gone, he got his wish. Now it's all on him. Time for him to rise up and be the champion man, or he's just another overpayed crybaby -- like almost all NBA players these...
  16. Sub-Odeon

    I'm still behind this team 100%

    If this team can't magically learn to play defense between now and April, they're toast in the playoffs. Sloan was a defense-minded coach. With him gone, what impetus is there for the team to learn defense now? Or will they try to be like the Warriors in 06-07 and out-gun the other team? We...
  17. Sub-Odeon

    Will Jazz fans kill the Utah Jazz franchise?

    Losing Stockton would have wrecked the franchise in the 90s. Losing D-Will is going to hurt the Jazz, no question, but D-Will has yet to play to even half of Stockton's potential. I have said many times in various places that D-Will is the core of the team right now, but if the core needs...
  18. Sub-Odeon

    Head Coach Jerry Sloan to resign today :(

    Phil and Jerry were a timeless duo. The Jazz as an organization and the state of Utah as a whole are better for having had these men run the team for so many years. They will be greatly missed. Greatly.
  19. Sub-Odeon

    You are Ty Corbin...What do you do different?

    If I am Ty Corbin I make a deal with Deron: give D-Will freedom on offense, and D-Will helps Ty knock some of these players around, until they clue in on defense. We are defensively worse now than we were with Boozer, and that's really saying something. If the defense does not improve, nothing...
  20. Sub-Odeon

    Will Jazz fans kill the Utah Jazz franchise?

    This isn't about skin color. The effing head coach is African American. This is about players knowing their place in the food chain. Fans are suspicious that D-Will has driven Sloan away. And next to Stockton, Sloan is the most beloved person in all of Utah Jazz history. Bar none. You...
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