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the most frustrating thing for me as a fan of grayson is that he can definitely help the team offensively with enough time on the court, but his defense is usually so bad that he can't even get that time. he needs to wake the F up. he had a good stretch of games before allstar break where he...

summarized the exact point I was making

a designated screener sounds good in theory, but everyone has to be a 3 pt threat IMO in that situation. you put don, kyle, joe, and jae or grayson out there in that situation and allow them to screen for each other which confuses the defense on switches. you have rudy or favs out there and...

you stay with the sarcasm on 100. anyone can set a screen in that situation with so little time left. i just think everyone on the floor with potential to receive a pass should've been a threat. rudy's defender could basically double off him in that situation.

why was gobert in so long over favors and why was he in on the last play? should've had four 3 pt shooters in on the last play.

i agree, i just thought he could've put some pressure on the rim as well like don does

i've been over ricky. team has looked completely different without him and that extends to last year's playoffs. i hope they don't resign him, not even as a backup. you can roll w/ X/neto for now, and when both inevitably become injured, both don and grayson can play it in a pinch.

this game is a prime example of why +- is a bull$hit stat. rudy was a -10, don -14. allen had a very good first half and a very bad short stretch in the 2nd half but still ended the game +5 just like royce (who shot very poorly but had better defensive impact). other than that 2nd half...

you're an idiot. i'm using his stats/play from larger sample sizes to make my point that his numbers have been objectively better with more time on the court. you're the dumbf*ck who is using small sample sizes to call a 21st pick a bust who has barely played 25 nba games and most games with...

these numbers are pointless in the context of a very limited sample size/playing time. All his numbers with good playing time are much better.

grayson's been nba ready since being a freshman. his best year was as a 19/20 yr old sophomore. coach K should've told him to leave then.

he shot lights out at the workout and basically every other workout with other teams. he also killed the other guards at the jazz workout. he's nba ready offensively, his defense has been the problem.

the same dialogue from both of you (especially jom) in any thread or mere mention of Allen. just say you hate him and move on/leave it at that, tired of hearing the same **** over and over from you. one subpar shooting game when he's been putting up great shooting splits otherwise when sent...

he'll never be able to play his game with the jazz then if this is your opinion. even then, he should've shown more than he has.

fair enough, but i still don't think he was the right choice. a frail (and still frail)18 yr old who got unwarranted hype playing nobodies. his agent must've been a phenomenal salesman.

he's played about 200 games in his career w/ ~ 20 min/game average and putting up a paltry 6 points 2 reb and 2 ast per game on 40/30/77 shooting splits. for a #5 pick. marcus smart, lavine, gary harris, bogdanovic, and even shabazz napier were all chosen after him. then of course there are...

we all do, the problem is he hasn't shown anything yet worthy of a top 5 pick or his contract. hence the hate.

yup, and the ironic part is that his game is incomplete primarily because he hasn't gotten game reps. they recalled him right back to jazz after the stars practice anyway.

if ricky is a$$ again, quin better have the balls to play royce/neto more and give allen some minutes.

even more reason to cut him some slack.