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imma be honest with you; all i read was your first sentence but that was enough. what we have here is a failure to communicate...where in all of my responses did i talk about him being a starter? everything i've stated or referenced in this thread is about his ability to contribute as an nba...

again you're stuck on stat watching which has worth in context of minutes played which has been my whole point and what @Handlogten's Heros has been saying. allen has played 12 games of 10 or more minutes out of 57 games the team has played so far and only 9.9 mpg overall for the season...

he needs to hit up wade and ginobili (2 players he idolizes and definitely plays like alot of the time) this offseason and watch more of their tape, especially with ballhandling and becoming more shifty. as you said, he routinely gets by his defender (sometimes surprisingly easily; his first...

46/38/82 shooting splits (on 8 3pt attempts per game) which is realistic production for him at nba level w/ adequate playing time.

those shooting splits aren't bad/worrisome to me (regardless of him being a 4-yr college player, he's still a rookie at the end of the day trying to adjust both on and off the floor) since it's still such a small sample over such few games, but it still is a basis for proving my point and more...

this is a guy who has played in less than half the teams games and only played meaningful minutes in maybe one-third of those of games (about 8-10 games in total). judging him on such a small sample size is short-sighted and lazy at best. this thread reeks of someone wanting to make a thread...

i honestly can't tell if this is a serious post or serious trolling. so much foolishness from top to bottom.

his stats are incredibly misleading since he plays so little and will go 0-1 or 0-2 a couple games, get a DNP, then go something like 1-2 or 2-5 in other games with very little PT. way too early to make a judgment on him especially if all you're doing is boxscore watching. i think with regular...

got it

was grayson's name truly brought up in any trades? unless it was for a true star, i didn't see the value in trading him which I said numerous times. he's been on the bench or injured most of the year, but has shown plenty of flashes of skill/improvement in very limited time, including...

there is another gunner/scorer on the team, but his defense has kept him glued to the bench most of the season.

he's much closer to being a passable/decent defender than he was early in the season. i've watched some other rookie guards who have been near or just as bad defensively, but they've gotten the benefit of either playing on a tanking team or being on a team with little guard/wing depth. Both...

you just described allen basically to a T. his problem has been defense (which is certainly better then where he was albeit still has a ways to go) and getting enough game reps to comfortable.

It’s hilarious to me how often people talk about Allen being so old yet exum and other players being talked about (like Winslow) are all said to be so young when they’re all barely 23 y/o like allen. Korver is about to be 38 y/o. If Conley is obtained, i’d rather give up exum and have allen as...

people keep bringing up allen, but i'd be very surprised if DL involves him in any trade unless it is for a superstar (not conley). low-cost rookie who's been injured/g-leagued/DNP'd and played very little minutes in only about 1/2 the games so far despite showing summerleague/preseason promise...

then who else do you include other than ricky?

agreed. and you can still run PnR w/ don, allen, or neto and they still providing the shooting gravity to open up the offense. rubio and exum are ignored and leads to 4 on 5 on offense.

rubio + exum apparently works salary wise. i wouldn't include allen. he's on a rookie contract for 3 more years and has been showing flashes of being able to play on and off the ball and provide spacing while improving defense. i wouldn't give that up at all especially as korver is aging.

2 picks is too much

why?