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Um, no they are not. ESPN has the Jazz ranked as the 7th most successful franchise in history. A ton of success has come with KOC and Jerry Sloan. Really, you think we are worse than the Clippers? Really? I mean, really? You're joking, right? They are doing pretty good for being in a...

It doesn't affect my life, I never said it did. How does the Jazz drafting a guy that you don't want affect your life?

Yeah spoiled children. Not getting what you want, and throwing a tantrum (booing, freaking out on message boards, suggesting KOC needs bodyguards, starting FIRE KOC Threads) about it is similar to a spoiled child. If the Jazz were losers every year like the Clippers, I would understand. But...

Ok, I guess the common idea from posters here is that most don't care at all if we act like grumpy, spoiled children and the national media crucifies us for it. Whatever.

Saying "A few analysts said so" is completely different than saying "Everyone said he was drafted too high", which is what you originally said and is what we are arguing with you about.

Exactly. It's easy to make your point look valid when you just start throwing random, baseless ideas around.

The pick wasn't that bad. Some mocks had him going 8 to the Clippers. None of the National Media guys thought it was a terrible pick. I hope I am not alone in caring about the reputation of Jazz fans from a National perspective.

Jazz fans have gotten a pretty bad rap this year from the national media. First off, the Fisher thing. I personally can't stand Fisher and think what he did was messed up, but I wouldn't boo him at games because the National Media doesn't understand the situation and it reflects very poorly...

Let's hire the guy who picked Greg Oden over Kevin Durant.

Is he wearing Tevas in that picture?

And I agree, we are moving in the wrong direction IF we don't get something in return for Boozer leaving.

No, but we weren't going to resign Boozer anyways, so why are you even throwing him in theoretical lineups? Is Millsap/Koufus with CJ/AK47 better than Millsap/AK with CJ/Hayward? I would take the lineup with Hayward. Although we may be able to resign Booze if we free up some cash, which we...

As has been said, AK will most likely play the 4 if Hayward pans out.

Things could have been worse. We could have drafted Whiteside. Everybody, including KOC, knows we need a big man. But we need a good big man. We have plenty of crappy big men (Fesenko, Koufus). I'm glad we didn't waste a pick on him, as he was definite D-League material. Hayward...

Let's not trade away our Memphis pick for some 7 footers that nobody likes. Honestly, 7 footers with talent should go top 20 at least. These guys just don't have what it takes to make an impact in an NBA rotation.

Um there is a reason he is sliding. He sucks.

Now that we didn't draft a big, and decided on another white dude, I can't help but think of Tomic. When is he supposed to come over and play for us? I haven't watched him, is he someone to get excited about? On another note, if we get rid of Korver (we now have another log jam full of...

Babbitt is who we are getting according to my crystal ball.

1- John Wall 2- Turner 3- Favors 4- Johnson 5- Cousins 6- Monroe 7- Davis 8- Aminu 9- Udoh 10- Aldrich Tiebreaker- Sacramento trades the #5 pick.

I posted it about 9 posts up.