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    Clayton or Collier?

    I would be surprised if a long term deal doesn't get done with him and Chicago. With a few teams having serious cap room next offseason I don't think the bulls will want to risk him having another really good season and losing him for nothing to us or the wizards.
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    Clayton or Collier?

    Getting rid of Rubio wasn't a mistake but making the Conley trade was because it created the mini me backcourt. We just needed to commit to Mitchell at the 1 and focus on snagging a solid 2 guard to compliment him. As far as Rubio goes as a shooter he would get hot every once in a while but the...
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    Clayton or Collier?

    You basically just described Ricky Rubio and we all know how that went. When teams locked down he became a massive liability because teams would sag off him and the rest of the offense would become a grind.
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    Clayton or Collier?

    We were a crappy team that opposing teams didn't hardly game plan for. When opposing teams actually care it will be another story if he can't shoot. If he doesn't develop a jumper then we are looking at Elfrid Payton.
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    Cody Williams Hype and Appreciation Thread

    At this point I'm just flipping Cody and Flips draft position in my mind so I'm no longer judging Cody as a lottery pick. Flip looks like he was worth the 10th pick so that makes the draft solid. Cody on the other hand is showing enough upside that I view him as a solid pick at 32.
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    Clayton or Collier?

    It always comes down to the reliable jumper. If he doesn't develop a reliable jumper then he has an Elfrid Payton career trajectory. If he can develop that jump shot then a Kyle Lowry type is possible.
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    Clayton or Collier?

    Collier is not as fast as you are making him out to be. He is a good athlete but I don't view him as one of those incredibly quick pg's that can get to his spots almost any time he wants. As of now I like him as a prospect but if he doesn't become a decent outside shooter he is going to have a...
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    Clayton or Collier?

    Collier is not super quick and anyone with eyes can see that. I never said anything about strength. As far as shooting goes it is not even up for debate that Clayton is a better 3pt shooter. Teams are never going to go out of their way to let him take clean 3pt looks. With Collier they will at...
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    Game Thread Jul 11, 2025 05:00pm: Jazz Vs Hornets (Summer League)

    I'm interested to see how they are distributed when we are healthy. We have so many youngsters right now that need consistent minutes to develop. This is how I would like to see it when completely healthy. Add in injuries though and you will see guys minutes increase overall. Odds are when...
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    Clayton or Collier?

    I'm not saying Clayton is the answer at pg either but Collier is not nearly as good currently as you are making him out to be. His lack of shooting ability is an issue and he isn't super quick either so I question his ability to break down the defense and create clean looks for guys. Teams are...
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    Clayton or Collier?

    The pg position was most definitely not taken care of with Collier and Harkless who isn't even a pg and most likely not even a rotation guy. Also bitching about dumping Clarkson, Sexton and Collins is stupid. We are in a full rebuild and they were in the way.
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    Clayton or Collier?

    I still think Key is going to cement himself as the longterm starting pg this year.
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    He is going to be very very good. It's such a hornets thing to pass on him for Kon when you want a sg that can stroke it.
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    Clayton or Collier?

    If Collier can't become a reliable 3pt shooter he is going to have a hard time seeing the floor when a team is trying to win rather than tanking.
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    How bad/good is Cody Williams?

    I'm excited to see the what Cody and Ace can do defensively. We haven't had that type of length defensively since probably AK and Brewer but they were kind offset by Boozer and Okur. Add in a healthy Hendricks and Kessler and you may have the makings of a damn good defense. Plenty of length to...
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    Elijah Harkless Hype Thread

    I like his toughness but I don't think he is any more than end of bench guy.
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    Game Thread Jul 07, 2025 07:00pm: Grizzlies Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    Don't worry this is Key's year.
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    Jazz trade John collins

    So nice to be 100% committed to a clear direction this offseason.
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    NBA Summer League Wild Overreaction Thread

    Very strange takeaway. His shot looks great and his release point is going to allow him to get a clean look over almost anyone.
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