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What we see in this thread is healthy skepticism that there is particular "path" to building a championship team. Yet, the Jazz FO was so confident that there was a path, and this path involved completely dismantling a winning team and condemning the team, it fans, its corporate sponsors, etc...

That was a long past era of OKC basketball. I struggle to understand why it's relevant to the current context.

Very well said.

The OKC "model" hinges on getting a future league MVP in a trade. Without that bit of luck (nobody expected SGA to be THIS good), it seems improbably that OCK would have won the title. That aspect of its rebuild is highly unlikely to be replicated by the Jazz or anyone else. In general terms...

In a world of the NBA media-scape where pundits with platforms routinely make bold pronouncements with undeserved confidence, Tony Jones stands out.

I remember it well. I has season tickets and grew increasingly frustrated watching McLeod and Palacio play over D-Will, when anyone with even the smallest of discernment could see that D-Will was the far superior player. Plus, he was the #3 pick, people were excited about seeing him play, and...

I haven't read the entire thread, but surely someone's mentioned Milt Palacio. You know, the journeyman worse than replacement player Jerry Sloan stubbornly started and played ahead of Deron Williams during Deron's rookie year. Sloan had some "old school" rationale for it, I'm sure, which just...

The puns write themselves.

It's also the root/origin of the English word Knight. So, he's also a warrior guy.

I agree. Why can't we celebrate even small to moderate wins like this when they occur? It's ok to take pleasure out of something even if it's not earth shattering.

Virtually ever podcast I listened to the discussed summer league began with the caveat something like, " We can all agree that summer league doesn't really matter and you can't draw any conclusions from it," right before they talked about how much summer league mattered and what conclusions they...

I've received a good amount of pushback on my position regarding load management in summer league, most of it quite reasonable. I've done some side research on the issue, and it seems I'm perhaps on a bit of a limb regarding my stronger criticisms on this issue. I understand that summer league...

Very reasonably stated. It's entirely possible that I've overstated the problem, perhaps motivated by my generalized loathing of load management.

I find it incredibly interesting that people here assume that ESPN is, or should be, unconcerned about the quality of the product it pays for and broadcasts. What successful business operates like this?

ESPN has made an investment. It wants to maximize the return to that investment. Imagine going before the ESPN decision-makers during contract negotiations to address concerns about the sitting of high profile draft picks and saying, "It's summer league man."

I get it. Your are correct in that summer league serves multiple purposes and teams must find a way to balance them productively. That's entirely reasonable from their POV and entirely reasonable for you to point this out. My POV is not the players or teams but the league. There appears to be a...

Don't know. There's always other options. This is, I believe, ESPN's second year broadcasting summer league. I imagine that when it signed up for it, ESPN execs didn't anticipate load management to make its way to summer league and for teams to be routinely sitting high profile draft picks...

If I'm ESPN, I'm refusing to broadcast summer league games in the future without some kind of guarantee that the high profile draftees actually play, barring legit injuries. Fans don't tune in to watch no names playing for two-way, G-league spots, or European contracts. They tune in to see the...

Filipowski's fall was one of the biggest misses in the 2024 draft. I wonder how much of his fall was due to off-court concerns/issues related to his presumedly sketchy girlfriend that bounced round social media pre-draft. (For the record, I couldn't care less. It was a non-story amplified by the...

Collier has more acreage than Clayton, but point well taken.