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    Burying the dumb **** about Clayton Jr not being "athletic"

    Well, Curry and Brunson are good examples of players who overcame their size limitations with immense skills. If you think that WCJ will be equally skilled then his future is very bright. His biggest hurdle is to develop a true PG skillset as he seems to be a combo guard, i.e. the shooting guard...
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    Clayton or Collier?

    I disagree. Rubio had his own warts but he was a 34% 3PT and 80% FT shooter in his rookie year. And he was a much better passer as well (>8 APG on a team with many capable passers).
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    Burying the dumb **** about Clayton Jr not being "athletic"

    Athleticism by itself means nothing: it is just the tool allowing players to control a lot of horizontal and vertical space on the court. Athleticism is simply the ability to move your outstretched hands quickly up and down. And Clayton does have a problem there. His standing reach is the 5th...
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    Game Thread Jul 16, 2025 08:00pm: Wizards Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    Whoever played 49 for the Jazz was epically bad: he has hands worse than Gobert. Also, Cody is surprisingly good in passing out of the double team.
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    Game Thread Jul 16, 2025 08:00pm: Wizards Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    The game is slowing down for him a bit - as it should for a second-year player. And because of that Cody is able to leverage his length and first step.
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    Game Thread Jul 14, 2025 06:30pm: Jazz Vs Spurs (Summer League)

    Tonje will probably take Juzang's minutes and he will probably be an upgrade over Johnny.
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    Game Thread Jul 14, 2025 06:30pm: Jazz Vs Spurs (Summer League)

    He was dead tired by the end of the game and I was surprised they kept him in.
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    Game Thread Jul 14, 2025 06:30pm: Jazz Vs Spurs (Summer League)

    He gives me Luka Samanic vibes. Selfish and overconfident.
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    Rookie Contract Power Rankings

    Where did you get this impression from? Do you mean "wants to do the right thing" on everything but defense? Because I am sure his coaches tried to play better defense but he is very obviously ignoring them. He did not become entrenched as one of the worst NBA defenders due to his physical...
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    Rookie Contract Power Rankings

    So, if he breaks out he will become a new Sexton but with worse shooting efficiency, worse dribbling and worse defense? And then he will probably want to be paid more than Sexton? I am not sure how all of that would benefit the Utah Jazz.
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    Burying the dumb **** about Clayton Jr not being "athletic"

    That just means he is a small guard. Do you really expect centers and power forwards to be more agile, fast and jump higher off the ground than small PGs?
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    Clayton or Collier?

    Then Collier will be our version of Shaq by the age of 28? Collier will push Kessler to being his back up due to his strength and better FT% and 3PT%.
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    Clayton or Collier?

    Then he needs to find a way to use it. Brunson bumps into people and dislodges them. While I saw relatively little of tape on Clayton I don't remember seeing him doing it. Clayton tends to run away/fake/screen defenders to create space instead of going into their body. Walter seems to need a...
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    Clayton or Collier?

    Correction: Brunson and VanVleet found their way to the starting PG position in the NBA not because they are small but because they are strong and hefty but still quick. Clayton does not seem to be built that way. But, in general, getting drafted close to 20 at the age of 22 as a PG is just a...
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    Game Thread Jul 13, 2025 08:00pm: Warriors Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    What did I just see?! I think that Cody played his best basketball for the Jazz in the second half. He was scoring, passing, stealing, rebounding... He also started grabbing and pulling his player on defense, which I had never seen him doing before. And Cody was smiling and talking, which was so...
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    Game Thread Jul 13, 2025 08:00pm: Warriors Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    Also, Cam McGriff looks very solid (which is not surprising since he is 28).
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    Game Thread Jul 13, 2025 08:00pm: Warriors Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    Always has been. But he is actually more comfortable with it then during the last season. He was also been able to blow by a couple of defenders by using his first step - Cody still did not know what to do one he got close to the basket but it is too a little sign of progress.
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    Game Thread Jul 13, 2025 08:00pm: Warriors Vs Jazz (Summer League)

    I just saw Collier starting the Warriors game by bricking two free throws. If you played PG in high school, a year in college and a year in the NBA and you still cannot do something so basic as making your free throws...you are done. He has been shooting them for probably, 10 years and was...
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    Clayton or Collier?

    Sure they can but it is very unlikely. The shooting problems of Collier's magnitude are very, very rarely get fixed for the guards. And how many starting PGs who spent 4 years in college do you know? Lillard (who was also drafted 5th), Brogdon and who else? It is also rare.
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    Clayton or Collier?

    This thread is a bit meaningless. Neither Collier, nor Clayton is a starting-level PG in the league at the moment and both of them are pretty unlikely to improve enough to become a quality starter. they could probably become solid backups but the competition to become a backup is very different...
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