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  1. Sean

    The Non-Jazz NBA Thread in the Jazz Section

    Lmao do you think OKC is gonna care? They got a title...more than Utah can say despite having a team for 45 years.
  2. Sean

    The Jazz have found their magic formula to build.

    You're misunderstanding the point entirely. I mentioned the 40 years because Utah has not had many stretches where they've tested being awful for multiple years. That is the point. The fans' commitment to the franchise is predicated on the idea they will eventually turn into something...
  3. Sean

    The Jazz have found their magic formula to build.

    Fans will stop coming. Especially now that the NHL is in the market. Utah has been insanely consistent the last 40 years. In fact, prior to this season (and maybe still now - I haven't done the math), Utah was the 5th winningest franchise in NBA history (win percentage). The team has won a lot...
  4. Sean

    Game Thread NBA Draft Lottery - May 12, 2025

    I reiterate my claim: If the Jazz are in on it - the whole league is too and it's probably not technically fraud then lol
  5. Sean

    Game Thread NBA Draft Lottery - May 12, 2025

    If the NBA is rigging the lotto either the Jazz front office is entirely in on it or they're ****ing stupid for not realizing it and putting all their eggs in the lotto basket.
  6. Sean

    Game Thread NBA Draft Lottery - May 12, 2025

    I was a proponent of running it back for at least a couple seasons to see what we could get out of it. But everyone wanted to cut ties and maybe long-term, in a decade, we'll be better off for it. But right now? The Jazz are looking a lot like the Sacramento Kings circa 2007.
  7. Sean

    Game Thread NBA Draft Lottery - May 12, 2025

    lmao the amount of glazing Utah media does for this failed franchise...
  8. Sean

    Game Thread NBA Draft Lottery - May 12, 2025

    Utah is the easiest franchise to hate. It's in a state no one likes. Its two biggest stars in franchise history are a pedophile and a weirdo conspiracy theorist. And they spent all season tanking just for this lmao
  9. Sean

    Game Thread NBA Draft Lottery - May 12, 2025

    The Jazz are rigged vs the Jazz.
  10. Sean

    Game Thread NBA Draft Lottery - May 12, 2025

    Give it time. Jazz fans will stop watching when the team fails to make the playoffs the rest of the decade. Especially if the Mammoth make the playoffs the next few years.
  11. Sean

    Big Dawg opines

    The Push Off wasn't even the most egregious. It was waving off Eisley's three and then counting Harper's - that's a six-point swing right there.
  12. Sean

    Herro Rumors

    I'm out of the loop - what is this passively floated idea the Jazz will move to Vegas? I've joked about it previously but I've never heard it even passively hinted by anyone. If anything, they'll relocate out to Lehi or something ridiculous and away from downtown.
  13. Sean

    John Stockton tried to recruit Barkley in 99?

    J&J accounted for just 7% of vaccinations in the US. Your dwelling on this nonsense, when the issue likely resulted in a much smaller overall risk than COVID itself, and both-sidings it with Stockton's insane and outrageous claims, is ridiculous. Do better.
  14. Sean

    Still A Harsh Reality... Players not wanting to play in Utah

    I mean, you can deny it all you want but there's a reason SLC has the reputation it does. I'm assuming you're white (Jewish, I'm guessing, in the US). You've probably lived your entire life in a city where white people made up at least a huge chunk of the population. I don't think anyone on...
  15. Sean

    Still A Harsh Reality... Players not wanting to play in Utah

    I never said no one wants to play/stay here. Please do not twist my words. I said it's a bigger challenge to get that all star talent to remain here. I mapped out exactly how long those players have remained with the Jazz in response to someone who said other NBA teams have won titles with...
  16. Sean

    Still A Harsh Reality... Players not wanting to play in Utah

    I think they face a similar stigma as SLC to be honest. But the big difference is that Oklahoma City is 14% black and Milwaukee is almost 40% Black. Salt Lake? 3%. I do think that plays a role. We have the smallest Black population of any NBA city. Even Portland (6%) and Phoenix (7%) have a...
  17. Sean

    Still A Harsh Reality... Players not wanting to play in Utah

    Maybe ... Jokic because European players seem more receptive to Utah (I guess Giannis fits that too). The problem is that they're pretty rare - at least at that level. As I pointed out, Gobert wasn't going to win Utah a title like those two might.
  18. Sean

    Still A Harsh Reality... Players not wanting to play in Utah

    Nikola Jokić played with the Nuggets for eight seasons before they won their NBA title. Utah got five seasons out of Mitchell before they unloaded him. Steph Curry was in his sixth season when he won his first title with the Warriors - or one more than Mitchell played in Utah. Giannis was in...
  19. Sean

    Still A Harsh Reality... Players not wanting to play in Utah

    I mean, the Millers sold the Jazz in the fall of 2020. I doubt it was a deal that happened quickly (something like that doesn't) - it's hard for me to believe in a few months that the pandemic raged, that they became so destitute they needed to sell the Jazz. There was definitely more at play...
  20. Sean

    Still A Harsh Reality... Players not wanting to play in Utah

    I think a big reason the Millers sold the Jazz is that they knew it was becoming increasingly difficult to attract and keep talent. The reality is, the NBA, more than any professional sport, is culturally urban and Utah is decidedly not. Basketball has generally been a big city, urban-centric...
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