2 potential what IFs

[Park Bites]

1st with the hiring of McHale as the new head coach of the rockets will the rockets try and make a deal for Jefferson? Offer Martin or a package of some young talent like hill, lee, Patterson, Williams, and or thabeet. That would make drafting kanter easier.

2nd If the next CBA has the early termination clause and Portland releases Roy would we want to look at bringing him in for cheap? I know his knees are bad but as a reserve he could still play.

 

[Beantown]

What IF this thread sucks?

 

[Shad]

First off, Portland can't "release him." They want him to retire so they don't have to pay him anymore. Second, No one is dumb enough to "retire" from getting 68 million dollars.

 

[BENTLEY]

1st with the hiring of McHale as the new head coach of the rockets will the rockets try and make a deal for Jefferson? Offer Martin or a package of some young talent like hill, lee, Patterson, Williams, and or thabeet. That would make drafting kanter easier.

Mchale probably values Jefferson so it might not be a bad idea. Looking at their roster I think the only one that makes sense is Martin. I like Patterson as well and I like Scola - but they're both PFs and the Jazz are pretty stacked there. Pattern would be nice off the bench though.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Meh. I love Kevin Martin if you're playing for something and have great defense, but the Jazz have neither. As bad as his D has been with what quickness he has, it's going to get Jimmer-bad in a few years.

After that, it's a bunch of meh players, guys that don't make sense for the Jazz right now, or guys they won't let go.

 

[Park Bites]

First off, Portland can't "release him." They want him to retire so they don't have to pay him anymore. Second, No one is dumb enough to "retire" from getting 68 million dollars.

Obviously you didn't Read what I put down. One of the things they are talking about for the new CBA is to give teams 1 exception to waive 1 player and their salary. That was my point.

 

[candrew]

I don't think McHale really values Jefferson that much it's just that he was a lousy GM who traded one of, arguably, the top 5 all-around players in the last 20 years for him to the team he played his entire career for - so he probably feels inclined to over compensate by putting the best light on Big Al.

I don't think that necessarily means he'll trade for him again.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Obviously you didn't Read what I put down. One of the things they are talking about for the new CBA is to give teams 1 exception to waive 1 player and their salary. That was my point.

The amnesty clause will never be able to terminate a salary. You'd be able to cut a guy and have his salary not count toward the cap, but a team would still have to be the full remaining amount on the contract.

 

[royzzz]

Hey if the Jazz is trading Al Jefferson, how about this?

Utah trades:
Al Jefferson to OKC and Raja Bell to Portland

Utah Gets:
G.Wallace and T.Sefalosha

OKC trades:
R.Westbrook and Nate Rob to Por & TS to Jazz

OKC gets:
Al Jeff and N.Batum

Por trades:
N.Batum to OKC and G.Wallace to Utah

Por gets:
Westbrook and NR from OKC and RBell from Jazz

Why?
Westbrook does not fit with Durant (of course just my observation), gets a post player.
Jazz gets it SF to pair with GHayward, frees up logjam at 4 (Jazz drafts a C at pick # 3)
Portland gets a very good PG and a franchise-type player to "replace" Roy
All others are just fillers. Well Jazz gets rid of Bell

But then again, why not just a straight-up trade involving Al Jeff and Westbrook. Although I will not be too happy with this.


Long boring night, so pardon me.

 

[BENTLEY]

It seems pretty fair to me, royzzz. Portland might want a little more filler, but the essentials: Jefferson, Westbrook, Wallace seem equal and fair.

I too wouldn't want Westbrook on my team.

 

[The Thriller]

Has Kevin Martin ever done anything other than chuck up a bunch of shots, lose a ton of games, play no defense, and be injured his entire NBA career? The kid makes Tmac look like a hall of famer.