Maneesh
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No reason be so rude! What is wrong with you?
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No reason be so rude! What is wrong with you?
Getting Traded
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54th Pick
Dallin Bachynski-C-Utah
This isn't just me being a homer, hear me out. When freshman Jakob Poetl took over the center position during Bachynski's senior year he handled it with class. All indications seem to peg him as a high character, team first, good locker room guy. Dude is a true 7 footer with NBA mass that isn't completely inept at either end of the floor. Bonus: he doesn't have any hangups about Utah. I'll take that this late in the draft for sure.
42nd Pick
Michael Frazier II-SG-Florida
Kid is a shooter. 3pt pct.: .380(2014-15), .447(2013-14), .468(2012-13). Over his college career he shot .432 from behind the arc(227/525). He holds the SEC record for most threes in a single game, 11. At 6'4" 195 lbs he doesn't have elite size but he isn't a shrimp either. If his shooting can translate he could end up being a steal.
12th Pick
Trade Back pick up an asset
Ultimately, I don't think moving up will be an option(not at a reasonable price anyway). There really isn't anyone around 12 that tickles my fancy or would be a good fit. Does Lyles have a position? Portis just moves wrong. Not as bad as Vonmeh but enough to make me not want him. I probably should like Kaminsky more than I do but I don't. I'm worried he won't be an effective defender at the NBA level. Turner is the pick if we stay at 12 imo but it's not one I'm too excited about. Further there is a young kid slated to go outside the lotto that has All star potential.
Christian Wood-PF-UNLV
POTENTIAL, potential, potential. This kid has got it in spades. Elite length(9'3.5" standing reach), smooth athleticism, handles, and he can shoot. He does need to bulk up but at his age it's nothing to worry about. Even though he is a sophomore he is still very young at just over 19 he is younger than some freshman. He is definitely a project and a bit of gamble but with the talent we have both on the roster/holding the clipboard, and with money to spend in FA Wood is a gamble I would be willing to take.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyt5McHmIKg
PS. Good to be Back
If this guy has so much potential, then why doesn't he just stay in college, so he can be a lottery pick?
♪alt13
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Thanks guys. Had to lay off the Jazzfanz addiction for a bit and get into a school rhythm.
What a Bagadonuts:/
Cuz, he's not hyped enough in the mocks?
Jazz own the Stampede now. Makes me think they will be more willing to spend the picks. Although, I could have a complete misconception of the situation.
Joe Bagadonuts
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Thanks Bro.
Coach Ellis
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My turn. . .
1.) SF/SG: Stanley Johnson (Arizona) - Johnson possesses elite athletic ability, two way potential and an NBA body at a chiseled 6'6" 240 lbs. I'm projecting him as a SG to compete with Hood and Burks for minutes with Hayward and Exum. He won't fall to #12, so the Jazz have to trade up to #8 or 9 to get him. Hoping a package of #12, Burke and a protected 1st round pick (either the OKC pick or lottery protected 2016 pick).
2.) PG: George Lucas De Paula (Brazil) - Athletically gifted, but extremely raw PG who is a total project. He has great tools to work with, but needs time and coaching. A few years away from being ready to compete in the NBA, he reminds me of fellow countryman Bruno Cabalco. I'm a huge fan of De Palma's length, defensive footwork and freakishly huge hands. He needs to work on his shot, but I'm confident in the coaching staff to help with that. Again, the Jazz have to trade up to pull this off - give up pick #54, a future 2nd round pick and cash.
3.) PF: Cliff Alexander (Kansas) - 2nd round is a good spot to take some chances. . . and Cliff Alexander is a boom or bust pick. Once considered a top 5 prospect, a disappointing freshman season where he struggled with minor injuries, inconsistency and an NCAA investigation/suspension have dropped him firmly into the middle of the 2nd round. A minor knee injury suffered during a workout won't help him make up any ground either. By all accounts, he is a raw but talented kid. He needs to grow up and mature some, but he has the physical tools to compete. Desperately in need of coaching to realize his potential. Plays hardon both ends of the floor, and reminds me of a poor man's Derrick Favors. Especially if he plays with a chip on his shoulder. Jazz can just stay put at #42 and likely get him.
1.) SF/SG: Stanley Johnson (Arizona) - Johnson possesses elite athletic ability, two way potential and an NBA body at a chiseled 6'6" 240 lbs. I'm projecting him as a SG to compete with Hood and Burks for minutes with Hayward and Exum. He won't fall to #12, so the Jazz have to trade up to #8 or 9 to get him. Hoping a package of #12, Burke and a protected 1st round pick (either the OKC pick or lottery protected 2016 pick).
2.) PG: George Lucas De Paula (Brazil) - Athletically gifted, but extremely raw PG who is a total project. He has great tools to work with, but needs time and coaching. A few years away from being ready to compete in the NBA, he reminds me of fellow countryman Bruno Cabalco. I'm a huge fan of De Palma's length, defensive footwork and freakishly huge hands. He needs to work on his shot, but I'm confident in the coaching staff to help with that. Again, the Jazz have to trade up to pull this off - give up pick #54, a future 2nd round pick and cash.
3.) PF: Cliff Alexander (Kansas) - 2nd round is a good spot to take some chances. . . and Cliff Alexander is a boom or bust pick. Once considered a top 5 prospect, a disappointing freshman season where he struggled with minor injuries, inconsistency and an NCAA investigation/suspension have dropped him firmly into the middle of the 2nd round. A minor knee injury suffered during a workout won't help him make up any ground either. By all accounts, he is a raw but talented kid. He needs to grow up and mature some, but he has the physical tools to compete. Desperately in need of coaching to realize his potential. Plays hardon both ends of the floor, and reminds me of a poor man's Derrick Favors. Especially if he plays with a chip on his shoulder. Jazz can just stay put at #42 and likely get him.
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♪alt13
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Hedge?
Would you use the 54 to trade up for De Paula or keep it and take Alexander?(assuming there is a willing partner) If you keep it who do you take @ 54?
Coach Ellis
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No hedging. I don't think that De Paula will make it to #42, but that's still a good pick. I'd use #54, cash and a future 2nd to move up into the 30's for De Paula. #54 is basically worthless in getting a contributor. At least 3 picks last year (in a strong draft) were sold for just cash. I'm sure the Jazz can find a trade partner if he lasts long enough.
I'd try to move up for Johnson in the first and then use #54 to move up as far as I can in the 2nd for De Paula, then draft the best big man to fall to #42. One of Mouhammadou Jaiteh, Chris McCullough, Cliff Alexander, Dakari Johnson, Jordan Mickey or Rakeem Christmas is bound to be there. Jaiteh is my preference, but I don't think he'll fall that far.
DL is aggressive in the draft and so I expect him to be active. If I had to just stay put and pick someone at #54, I'd probably take a draft and stash guy to use as a future asset. I'd hope for one of Alpha Kaba, Marc Garcia, Cedi Osman, Moussa Diagne. If not, then my focus would shift to either Pat Connaughton or Tyler Harvey (who I'd prefer to chase as free agents instead.)
