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Are there black markets for hiking permits?

Duck Rodgers

Duck Rodgers

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Just been looking around for some hikes/camping spots in the months ahead and some of these places only let 20 people in a day. 10 people in a day. Do I just try to sneak in at night?
 
You can sometimes call tour companies that are at times permitted to buy several at a time. Give them a little profit and save the hassle.
 
PKM said:
You can sometimes call tour companies that are at times permitted to buy several at a time. Give them a little profit and save the hassle.
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I think that's a way I could possibly get into Zion Subway without playing the lottery. They go 80 people/day for that, which isn't a ton, but that still means I have a little wiggle room to work with to get the dates I want.

Have you been to Coyote Butte North? That's the main one that's causing me problems. Seems like a breeze hike, but the scenery looks terrific.
 
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Duck Rodgers said:
I think that's a way I could possibly get into Zion Subway without playing the lottery. They go 80 people/day for that, which isn't a ton, but that still means I have a little wiggle room to work with to get the dates I want.

Have you been to Coyote Butte North? That's the main one that's causing me problems. Seems like a breeze hike, but the scenery looks terrific.
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Yes. I'm more of an off trail guy, but have been to all the major ones with clients.
 
Just scream at them, HEY what gives you the right to put up a sign to keep me out or to keep mother nature in, if God were here he'd tell it to your face, man you're some kind of sinner.

That should do it.
 
I'm actually impressed that Vinyl climbed that high. It's got to be a lot harder when you've got those little legs.
 
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