Because Trey Lyles...

[ncoloradojazz]

You remembered it wrong. That lineup played 0 minutes in their first championship season and 77 minutes in their second championship season (7 total games). You can check it for yourself on nba.com/stats.

YEp, Wrong... they never started that lineuip but here dude is saying they did. I remember Lamar being the first big off the bench always. If Bynum came in then Pau rotated to the 5 and LO was the combo forward. They would look to get Kobe rest when LO was in the game also.

 

[stitches]

I said late last season i thought he could play some 3. Will he struggle in defensive? Yes, some but I'm not sure it's any more than he will at the 4. The difference though is at the 3, he could have Favors and Gobert behind him.

Imagine two 2-4 minute segments a game with Exum, Hayward, Lyles, Favors, Gobert. That size and rebounding, wow. And the passing, shooting, and defense would be pretty damn good too.

With every such decision you need to ask yourself, why you are doing it? What advantage does it give you and does the advantage outweigh the negatives? What advantage does Lyles playing as a wing give you? How do you see him abusing wings? His biggest asset is his mobility, shooting and ball-skills against bigs. In essence what putting him at the 3 is - eliminate his offensive advantage(i.e. he will be guarded by more mobile and athletic wings) and making him a complete liability on D where his lateral quickness is not good enough against bigs, let alone against wings. The only + I can see is that he might turn from below average rebounder for his position(PF) to ~average for his new position(SF). This is all horrible in my books.

 

[MDAV28]

Will he struggle in defensive? Yes, some but I'm not sure it's any more than he will at the 4. The difference though is at the 3, he could have Favors and Gobert behind him.

MUCH more than at the 4. Favors and Gobert behind him doesn't mean they'll stop his guy. When you allow perimeter penetration, the rotations kill your defense cause they'll just drop if off to Rudy's guy when he helps. Ironically, this is exactly why Lyles should play the 4 offensively because he can get by 4's and stretch them out of the paint.

 

[MDAV28]

With every such decision you need to ask yourself, why you are doing it? What advantage does it give you and does the advantage outweigh the negatives? What advantage does Lyles playing as a wing give you? How do you see him abusing wings? His biggest asset is his mobility, shooting and ball-skills against bigs. In essence what putting him at the 3 is - eliminate his offensive advantage(i.e. he will be guarded by more mobile and athletic wings) and making him a complete liability on D where his lateral quickness is not good enough against bigs, let alone against wings. The only + I can see is that he might turn from below average rebounder for his position(PF) to ~average for his new position(SF). This is all horrible in my books.

Nailed it bro.

 

[Miggs]

lol Funny I said when Trey was drafted manye he could become an Lamar type player and I was made fun of and now people are comparing him to Lamar. When will most of you realize I am normally right? BTW lamar was a backup on those Chip winnign lakers team. Trey is a super 6 man just like Lamar was. Thing is they had a player named Kobe JellyBean Bryant. Some of yall muight of heard of him. Grant it he was no Hayward but he had a few good seasons.

I'm not a genie.

 

[Miggs]

With every such decision you need to ask yourself, why you are doing it? What advantage does it give you and does the advantage outweigh the negatives? What advantage does Lyles playing as a wing give you? How do you see him abusing wings? His biggest asset is his mobility, shooting and ball-skills against bigs. In essence what putting him at the 3 is - eliminate his offensive advantage(i.e. he will be guarded by more mobile and athletic wings) and making him a complete liability on D where his lateral quickness is not good enough against bigs, let alone against wings. The only + I can see is that he might turn from below average rebounder for his position(PF) to ~average for his new position(SF). This is all horrible in my books.

A very good point that I obviously didn't think through enough. Thanks.

 

[silesian]

I personally think he would be great at the 3. Hopefully he will improve his defense. But, right now our second unit of big guys is lacking defense. I'm afraid Favors or GoBert are always going to have to accompany Diaw or Lyles.

There is no problem on offense with Lyles/Favors/Rudy (unless you believe that Fav/Rudy cannot co-exist, but that is kinda a separate issue).


The problem is on defense. He is more exposed defending the 3 than the 4.