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Dante Exum 2014 vs Dante Exum early 2016, comparison

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SSS theater but..

The difference between his free throw rate in his rookie year and this season is staggering - he shot 0.6FTA per 36 minutes as a rookie and he's going to the line 4 times per 36 minutes this season. Here's some more confirmation that he's MUCH more aggressive this year in attacking the rim:

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55% of all his shots are at the rim this year, and 30% of his shots are from 3. Compare this to his rookie year - 12.5% of his shots at the rim and 63.5% from 3. Worth noting that his % at the rim has not dropped, even though he's taking much more tough shots there(not everything is transition or wide open dunks like in his rookie year). If you asked me to guess without looking at the numbers what % he shoots at the rim, I would have never guessed it's this high, because by the eye test he doesn't really have a great touch IMO.

Another piece of evidence:

In his rookie year he was getting only 2.2 drives per game in 22 mpg and his FG on drives was horrible 33%. And he was looking to pass on those drives most of the time(52%, which is very high, only Joe Ingles had higher pass% on his drives).

This year he's at 4.0 drives per game in 17.8 mpg. He's doubled his drives in less playing time. And he's shooting 71% on his drives.

Anyways, I'm very happy with how he's playing offensively. When Hayward comes back I kind of want to see him running the point more.
 
Good growth! Still plenty of room to improve but it's a start.
 
He's been good, and he'll continue to improve. Next step (other than working on that shot) is buildign some semblance of a mid-range game. He's better than a 3-and-D.
 
Dante had 4 blocks in 14 minutes the other night, and I thought I heard he's the only guard to have ever done that in the NBA.

Anyone else catch that?

I have to admit, I was concerned how well he'd come back from injury, and so far I'd say he's been better than I could have hoped for.
 
Dante Exum is already a very good player, like I said preseason he'd be a good player for any team in the league! He's extremely quick for someone with that build. To me he's looked like the quickest player on the floor in most of his minutes thus far..

Nothing in the first few games would make me second guess that, the injury didn't delay his progress as much as many expected..
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Dante had 4 blocks in 14 minutes the other night, and I thought I heard he's the only guard to have ever done that in the NBA.

Anyone else catch that?

I have to admit, I was concerned how well he'd come back from injury, and so far I'd say he's been better than I could have hoped for.
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It's true, the Mavs announcers were talking about it last game..
 
stitches said:
SSS theater but..

The difference between his free throw rate in his rookie year and this season is staggering - he shot 0.6FTA per 36 minutes as a rookie and he's going to the line 4 times per 36 minutes this season. Here's some more confirmation that he's MUCH more aggressive this year in attacking the rim:

KUhh1b.png


55% of all his shots are at the rim this year, and 30% of his shots are from 3. Compare this to his rookie year - 12.5% of his shots at the rim and 63.5% from 3. Worth noting that his % at the rim has not dropped, even though he's taking much more tough shots there(not everything is transition or wide open dunks like in his rookie year). If you asked me to guess without looking at the numbers what % he shoots at the rim, I would have never guessed it's this high, because by the eye test he doesn't really have a great touch IMO.

Another piece of evidence:

In his rookie year he was getting only 2.2 drives per game in 22 mpg and his FG on drives was horrible 33%. And he was looking to pass on those drives most of the time(52%, which is very high, only Joe Ingles had higher pass% on his drives).

This year he's at 4.0 drives per game in 17.8 mpg. He's doubled his drives in less playing time. And he's shooting 71% on his drives.

Anyways, I'm very happy with how he's playing offensively. When Hayward comes back I kind of want to see him running the point more.
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Rookie year he played against starters. This year he plays against backups. Can you give splits rookie year so we can compare apples to applesauce?
 
Rookie year he played against starters. This year he plays against backups.
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And he's also playing next to a ballhog in Shelvin Mack and backups himself,playing with the starters I think his numbers go up even moreso
 
Good thread.
So far im encouraged by what i have seen. He still looks like a tired, awkward, ***** too often but at least he has shown improvement.

For now im content with his play.
 
Boris said:
Rookie year he played against starters. This year he plays against backups. Can you give splits rookie year so we can compare apples to applesauce?
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I don't know how to filter out the games he came off the bench.
The closest I came up with is taking his pre-all-star break numbers when he was mostly coming off the bench:
FTAs: 0.95 per 36

drives: 1.9 drives in 20.7 mpg, 39% shooting on drives, 48% passing on drives.

Still pretty big difference between those numbers and this year's numbers. The biggest problem with this year's numbers is really the small sample I think, rather than the fact he's playing against second units.
 
stitches said:
I don't know how to filter out the games he came off the bench.
The closest I came up with is taking his pre-all-star break numbers when he was mostly coming off the bench:
FTAs: 0.95 per 36

drives: 1.9 drives in 20.7 mpg, 39% shooting on drives, 48% passing on drives.

Still pretty big difference between those numbers and this year's numbers. The biggest problem with this year's numbers is really the small sample I think, rather than the fact he's playing against second units.
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It is visibly noticeable I do not really need the stats to back it up but it is nice to have them. He still looks kinda timid but when he gets a step he is taking it now. Mack does the same FYI. Jazz offense seems to be less point guard assisting.
 
I am really impressed with Dante. He is much better without even playing dring his year of injury. He is playing better than I expected.

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stix737 said:
I am really impressed with Dante. He is much better without even playing dring his year of injury. He is playing better than I expected.

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This.

Dude hasn't really even played in like 14 months and is noticeably better. That's scary.

His one baseline take to the rim for a layup last game vs. Dallas was damn impressive. I actually did a double take and thought to myself, Damn Hill is that explosive? And then I saw that it was Dante. He never did anything that even close to resembled that as a frosh. A year of experience and a summer under his belt and dude could be really effing good next year.
 
Dude hasn't really even played in like 14 months and is noticeably better. That's scary.
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Puts it in perspective.......I want him to play more especially when he does more than Mack does with less touches and I want him doing it from his natural PG position ,then I do realize he's working to get his NBA rythem back still
 
tleikheen said:
Puts it in perspective.......I want him to play more especially when he does more than Mack does with less touches and I want him doing it from his natural PG position ,then I do realize he's working to get his NBA rythem back still
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DL said they are purposefully bringing him along slowly this year.

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His rookie year he played like I do on offense. He hung out around the three point line and took open shots. The reason I play that way is because I'm not very good. I think Dante did it because he lacked confidence that he could do aanything.

This year hes not playing like I do. He drives past the primary defender at will. He struggles with the second defender/ rim protector, but has found clever ways to score.

Is he athletic enough to dunk on people? Is it a lack of confidence? Lack of strength? He looks skinny and narrow shouldered sometimes.

Also, his rookie year I had season tickets but no cable, this year I got DISH instead of tickets. Seeing him on TV he looks extremely winded. Like no NBA player I've ever seen. Was he this bad his rookie year? I remember talk of him being a "mouth breather" (literally, not like Stranger Things) but now he looks like a chest heaving mouth breather (also similar to my game...)

I don't mean to be down on him. He's looking better. Hes not as good as I was hoping hed be when we drafted him, but I think the main thing he is missing is aggression and confidence. I can be patient for another season or so. I guess we are better off if he comes along slowly so he gets an Alec Burks like contract after his rookie deal. Slow development is the key, because if we have to max him, we will have to lose an asset to keep him.

Yesterday David Locke said he could be a George Hill some day. I was pretty disappointed with that. I think he can be more.
 
I havent been able to see may Jazz games this year due to work, does anyone know where I might be able to see some of his good plays from this year?
 
He was aggressive going to the basket last night, so was Hood.

Exum's last couple games have been very negative in the plus minus, if that means anything.
 
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