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How come players under contract are not called to work out against prospects?

Zerol

Zerol

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I guess the answer is the agents refuse and avoid it.

I would really love that to happen. Say asking Favors to work out against Kanter to see what he got. Ask Singleton to guard Hayward and see if he is really a shut down defender. Have Millsap going against Derrick Williams to see if either can be a 3. Put Miles on Jordan Hamilton, see who can shoot more in one minute and how long it will take them to realize they are essentially the same person.

Too bad.
 
Yes I totally agree. I was about to start exactly this same thread but you beat me to it!

My best guess would be that agents would avoid it as well. Why would Kanter's agent, say, want him going up against Favors who's had a full year in the NBA and making the fool out of himself (not saying he will but it could happen).

Also every team would have different players guarding him - so that won't really provide a fair assessment.

At least if you have Kanter going up against the likes of Morris he'd be going up against his peers.
 
I think Hilton Armstrong, who was a guy cut after being traded, was brought in to go against guys like Cousins and Armstrong wiped the floor with him.
 
I reckon NBA players' responsibilities as per their contracts do not cover silly season workouts.
 
Beating a player one on one doesn't mean they will be the better player in a 5 on 5 setting. What would happen if the rookie wipe the floor with the vet. Can you see the vet tell the team to draft a guy who just made him look silly? Its called Job Security. I can see Millsap telling Corbin not to draft a guy because it would mean Millsap would come off the bench. lol. Another reason is logistics, veteran players do not want to give up their summers to audition players who might take their job away.
 
I can't quote you a source, but from what I understand veterans are not allowed to work out with the rookies. I'm guessing it's something the players wanted in the CBA (to protect their summers), but for whatever reason, they can't. I'll look around for a source if I have time later.

If Hilton Armstrong did it, there must be some loophole I'm not aware of.
 
Kenwood said:
I can't quote you a source, but from what I understand veterans are not allowed to work out with the rookies. I'm guessing it's something the players wanted in the CBA (to protect their summers), but for whatever reason, they can't. I'll look around for a source if I have time later.

If Hilton Armstrong did it, there must be some loophole I'm not aware of.
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My memory could be poor, but it seems Hilton was not on a roster when these workouts occured.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
I think Hilton Armstrong, who was a guy cut after being traded, was brought in to go against guys like Cousins and Armstrong wiped the floor with him.
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For the record, it was Daniel Orton and Hassan Whiteside that he wiped the floor with .. Cousins wasn't there and I doubt he would have had his way with Demarcus as he did the other two.
 
Probably because it wouldn't be very awesome to see Derrick Favors blow out a knee because of a freak injury working out against rookies who aren't even on your roster.
 
jazzman12 said:
Probably because it wouldn't be very awesome to see Derrick Favors blow out a knee because of a freak injury working out against rookies who aren't even on your roster.
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Well couldn't he blow out his knee just working out on his own or with other players. These guys just don't stop playing basketball in summer all together.
 
Chad Feldheimer said:
Well couldn't he blow out his knee just working out on his own or with other players. These guys just don't stop playing basketball in summer all together.
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Agreed, but the second the future of your franchise blows out a knee while working out against incoming rookies, you're going to see fans come unglued. Obviously, players playing basketball in the offseason is a good thing. You probably don't want your guys not picking up a basketball all offseason long. I just see working out vets against draft prospects as pretty unnecessary and it would be unforgiveable if you lost a player because of it.
 
jazzman12 said:
Agreed, but the second the future of your franchise blows out a knee while working out against incoming rookies, you're going to see fans come unglued. Obviously, players playing basketball in the offseason is a good thing. You probably don't want your guys not picking up a basketball all offseason long. I just see working out vets against draft prospects as pretty unnecessary and it would be unforgiveable if you lost a player because of it.
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Probably has more to do with the players wanting to go back to their hometowns during the offseason more than anything else.
 
IIRC, Deron attended a few workouts in his early days, but did not participate. I think he was just there to give input. He also showed up at summer league (I think in his 3rd season). Too bad he couldn't remain the guy he used to be; just got too full of himself.
 
By no means the players working out with the prospects should be going full force, but just to get a feel and in a position to give some input to the management. It would be just like Chad said above, a normal workout.
 
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