Weathered. And losing some muscle mass, and the fact that he never carried much fat anyway, and as you age your skin doesn't bounce back anymore in response to body mass gains or losses, so as he loses body mass, and doesn't add any fat on top of it, his skin hangs more loosely. It's just the way it is. He could still probably give us 10 productive minutes per night off the bench, odds are he is in that kind of shape. Dude is a machine. Stockton probably could to. I would lobby to sign both of them to short deals if we are flirting with getting a ring to correct the travesty of them being the best duo to never win one. Stockton with weapons like Lauri would dominate. And in short stretches I bet both of them could still be effective. Would be fun to see anyway, get them their rings.