I hear ya! Those poor NBA owners are really struggling.i've hated max contracts ever since AK got his over a decade ago. players thinking that they deserve one just because dipstick on the other team got one is stupid. i like to think that if i were in the NBA i'd cut my contract in half to make room for better teammates so i could get the glory that comes from multiple titles, but in our current nba a player over 40 insisted that he get his 50 plus mil contract confirmed while at the same time trying to force his team to go into the tax to get him that title. so much wrong with max contracts.
Lol. I'm sure if you were a billionaire you would have no issue with a $200 million luxury tax bill like the Suns had last year.I hear ya! Those poor NBA owners are really struggling.
We don't want to trade him. It's just hard to envision the Jazz being a championship contender while he's still in his prime. He doesn't fit our timeline.Hello, I just wanted to post - as a Spurs fan - that I was desperately wanting SA to trade their ATL picks+Vassell for him before he got the contract. It doesn’t look like that will happen now but he would still be the perfect fit for our team as currently constructed.
I watched Utah quite often last year and I think he is still a hell of a player (despite the time missed and having a ‘down’ year) and I’ve been pretty shocked to see Jazz fans wanting to move on from him.
i'd be curious how he feels about being on a team with a bunch of 22 and under year olds and losing 60 games. if he's good with that, i'd probably keep him around unless an offer blows me away.
STOP with the pedophilia talk!Ace is extremely raw and many years away.
It's because of a new owner.I agree, it does seem pointless. We should’ve gutted this team years ago. Keeping sexton, Clarkson, and Lauri on this team for years has been a complete waste… for all parties. I feel bad for these guys. And it hasn’t done us any good. We’ve prolonged our rebuild by years because our management held onto veterans for some odd reason.
I'd hate to be the team building around Scoot and Holland. It may be bleak in Utah, but a team built around those two would be as if not more bleak.If we had cleared the decks in the Wemby draft, I think we would have ended up with one of Wemby, a Thompson twin, Brandon Miller, or Scoot. Then in 2024, we’d likely have landed one of Sarr, Risacher, Sheppard, Castle, or Holland.
Best case, we’d have Wemby and Castle.
Worst case, we’d have Scoot and Holland.
In reality, we ended up with Hendrix and Williams.
I’m not sure how the pick value would have netted out if we had traded our guys then vs. now, but it seems pretty clear we would have gotten more back at that point.
Honestly, I’d probably rather have the worst case (Scoot and Holland) than Hendrix and Williams, especially with Williams looking like a bust right now. Plus, we’d have more picks.
I don't get this insistence that the Jazz absolutely MUST be on a certain timeline. There's no reason, in theory at least, why the Jazz couldn't pivot reasonably quickly if a core emerged in this or next season, while maintaining the flexibility and assets to make major or incremental moves that shore things up. Look at Houston. They were on a youth "timeline," but they quickly and unexpectedly pivoted a couple of years ago by signing veteran talent to augment their young core (with many commentators criticizing the move at the time based on similar "timeline" thinking), and two years later, they were the #2 seed. Now they've built on that and look like legit contenders next year (on paper).We don't want to trade him. It's just hard to envision the Jazz being a championship contender while he's still in his prime. He doesn't fit our timeline.
I sadly agree with much of this. Ryan has a lot to learn wrt effective ownership of the Utah Jazz.It's because of a new owner.
I listened to some podcast about new owners.... They talked about how a new owner comes in and likes to change and make a 'good impression' when what they should do is absolutely nothing for a year and then start working on things. They also mentioned new owners who have -0- experience in the sports world in ownership and say that it gets nasty quick.....
I think we've seen a lot of that. We're now in year 4 of Ryan's "10 year championship plan" .... and just by being a spectator, I think we can all agree that we're still years away from being competitive, let alone, being close to championship contention.
If Ace turns out to be a bust, we will be 5+ years away from being competitive at all and our rebuild will be 10 years in the making.
LHM had his faults but he definitely ran the Jazz better than Ryan has so far in his short time.
EDIT: I will say tanking this year was the best thing we've done since Ryan took over though.
Of course but that’s the absolute worst case scenario. More likely you get Miller, Amen or best case Wemby.I'd hate to be the team building around Scoot and Holland. It may be bleak in Utah, but a team built around those two would be as if not more bleak.