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Wharton Study Shows the Shocking Result When Women and Minorities Email Their Professors

If you're a woman or minority student looking for a mentor, don't hold your breath.

New research has found that university professors exhibit a bias in favor of their white male students, information that, while perhaps not unexpected, is seriously bad news for the nation's aspiring academics.

According to a segment produced by NPR, researchers led by the Wharton School's Katherine Milkman emailed 6,500 professors from 89 disciplines at the top 259 schools, pretending to be students. These emails replicated the same message; the only variable was the sender's name — for example, "Brad Anderson, Meredith Roberts, Lamar Washington, LaToya Brown, Juanita Martinez, Deepak Patel, Sonali Desai, Chang Wong, Mei Chen" — deliberately crafted in order to test the racial and gender bias in professor response.

The type of student who garnered the most responses? The white male. As Milkman told NPR, professors "ignored requests from women and minorities at a higher rate than requests from white males. ... We see a 25-percentage-point gap in the response rate to Caucasian males versus women and minorities."


"All they were measuring was how often professors wrote back agreeing to meet with the students," notes NPR's Shankar Vedantam. "And what they found was there were very large disparities. Women and minorities [were] systematically less likely to get responses from the professors, and also less likely to get positive responses from the professors."

Faculty at private universities, business schools and those in "lucrative" (read: non-humanities) fields were more likely to discriminate than those at public schools or those who work in the humanities.

Racial bias was most evident against Asian students, which surprised researchers, who assumed the stereotype of "Asians as a model minority group" would be reflected in faculty response. The assumption, as well as the final data, reveal how both Southeast Asians and East Asians collectively remain the silent minority whose mythic "model minority" status conceals their lived discrimination in American culture.

This research illustrates how white men continue to be recipients of academic privilege, despite all the "post-racial" angst and paranoia directed at legally institutionalized methods of redressing gender and racial inequities, from Title IX to affirmative action.

Fear that men are losing their academic edge is illogically deduced from the growing achievements of women in the classroom. Yet, as the U.S. Department of Education reported at the beginning of the year, there remains a substantial achievement gap between whites and racial minorities at the K-12 level, which arguably translates into a disparity in success at the college level. This disparity was proven by a report released in February, called "Aspirations to Achievement: Men of Color and Community College," which observed that black and Latino men enter college with the most motivation but achieve the least success.

"Although black and Latino male students enter community colleges with higher aspirations than those of their white peers, white men are six times as likely to graduate in three years with a certificate or degree," the report's authors noted. "Black men are the most engaged in tutoring and orientation sessions but report the least success. Latinos are in between, and white men report the lowest levels of engagement at almost every level but the most success."

Scholars behind this research attribute the difference to minorities entering college with "weaker academic skills," which, they contend, can be countered by "building strong personal connections on the campus." Unfortunately, as Milkman's new study suggests, they are not even receiving this type of institutional support.

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Speaking of education.....if anybody wants to see the 2014 CEDA Cross examination champions in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmO-ziHU_D8






Melvin Tolson is rolling in his grave.
 
I made it halfway through the 5 minute one... I can't listen to that. What's with the noises, fast talking, and all that... made it so I couldn't go on. I'm sure there's a tactic to it, were they trying to filabuster the other side or something? Someone please tell me as there is no way I'm pressing play on either one of those again.
 
I made it halfway through the 5 minute one... I can't listen to that. What's with the noises, fast talking, and all that... made it so I couldn't go on. I'm sure there's a tactic to it, were they trying to filabuster the other side or something? Someone please tell me as there is no way I'm pressing play on either one of those again.

We wouldn't want you to venture too far outside your comfort zone. Thank you for hinting that the problem is with the debaters, and not you.
 
We wouldn't want you to venture too far outside your comfort zone. Thank you for hinting that the problem is with the debaters, and not you.

Thanks for jumping to conclusions-. Didn't say there was a problem with either, just said I couldn't listen to that and asked if there was some sort of tactic behind that.

If you have nothing of substance to say, don't ruin the thread like I always do. It bothers some posters. By the way, franklin thinks you are a religious conservative.
 
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Speaking of education.....if anybody wants to see the 2014 CEDA Cross examination champions in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmO-ziHU_D8




...What's with the noises, fast talking, and all that... made it so I couldn't go on. I'm sure there's a tactic to it, were they trying to filabuster the other side or something? Someone please tell me as there is no way I'm pressing play on either one of those again.


Interesting technique. I had difficulty following the dialogue during much of the debate portions of the clip. It's not at all how they sound in the interview portions.
 
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Interesting technique. I had difficulty following the dialogue during much of the debate portions of the clip. It's not at all how they sound in the interview portions.

Yes, I'm curious why and what the benefit is because they are clearly doing it for a reason.
 
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https://www.aacu.org/ocww/volume39_1/feature.cfm?section=1


an in-depth look, too much to quote but worth a look...

STEM Major Choice and the Gender Pay Gap
By Andresse St. Rose, research associate, AAUW

here's a small part, quite a ways down in the article...

The economic advantages of majoring in STEM fields appear immediately after graduation. In Behind the Pay Gap, AAUW researchers found that one year out of college, female engineers and architects (16 percent of the field) earned slightly more on average (105 percent) than their male peers. Yet although women working full time in engineering and architecture initially earned more than their male colleagues, their advantage reversed and widened over time. Ten years after graduation, women working full time in engineering and architecture earned only about 93 percent of what their male colleagues earned. (See table 1 for details regarding the overall gender wage gap in selected STEM occupations.) Nevertheless, even ten years after graduation, women in male-dominated fields such as engineering continued to earn more than their female peers working in female-dominated majors such as education, humanities, or psychology.

These differences suggest that a key strategy for shrinking the persistent gender pay gap is to reduce gender segregation in choice of college major and occupation. One way to do this is by adopting practices to promote women’s recruitment and retention in STEM majors, a topic addressed later in this article.

To me, it seems like an apples to oranges comparison to look at a new hire's salary compared to the salary of someone hired ten years ago so to say the pay gap widens over the years is not really an accurate statement. What was the starting salary of those who were hired ten years earlier? Was the gender gap in starting salaries narrower or wider at that time? It's not really clear what sort of longitudinal data they've collected.
 
Victimhood: A coveted status sought after by liberals.

Isn't victimhood the m.o. of you Tea Baggers? The news is against you, the academia is out to get you, the taxman is keeping you down, the PETA is taking yer meat, the world trade towers are plotting to eat your children, the RINO's are losing you elections, the CO2 is making the fake moon landing tapes...
 
Victimhood: A coveted status sought after by liberals.

This is an incredibly inaccurate statement. Currently, the social landscape in this country is that everyone is a victim. Framing this issue of "victimhood" or "martyrdom" along party lines is myopic beyond belief.
 
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