let's keep these racism and gender bias discussions going. Emphasis: education

[moevillini]

Speaking of education.....if anybody wants to see the 2014 CEDA Cross examination champions in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmO-ziHU_D8

...What's with the noises, fast talking, and all that... made it so I couldn't go on. I'm sure there's a tactic to it, were they trying to filabuster the other side or something? Someone please tell me as there is no way I'm pressing play on either one of those again.

Interesting technique. I had difficulty following the dialogue during much of the debate portions of the clip. It's not at all how they sound in the interview portions.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Interesting technique. I had difficulty following the dialogue during much of the debate portions of the clip. It's not at all how they sound in the interview portions.

Yes, I'm curious why and what the benefit is because they are clearly doing it for a reason.

 

[moevillini]

any thoughts on STEM and special efforts towards female students in that regard?

 

[moevillini]

https://www.aacu.org/ocww/volume39_1/feature.cfm?section=1


an in-depth look, too much to quote but worth a look...

STEM Major Choice and the Gender Pay Gap
By Andresse St. Rose, research associate, AAUW

here's a small part, quite a ways down in the article...

The economic advantages of majoring in STEM fields appear immediately after graduation. In Behind the Pay Gap, AAUW researchers found that one year out of college, female engineers and architects (16 percent of the field) earned slightly more on average (105 percent) than their male peers. Yet although women working full time in engineering and architecture initially earned more than their male colleagues, their advantage reversed and widened over time. Ten years after graduation, women working full time in engineering and architecture earned only about 93 percent of what their male colleagues earned. (See table 1 for details regarding the overall gender wage gap in selected STEM occupations.) Nevertheless, even ten years after graduation, women in male-dominated fields such as engineering continued to earn more than their female peers working in female-dominated majors such as education, humanities, or psychology.

These differences suggest that a key strategy for shrinking the persistent gender pay gap is to reduce gender segregation in choice of college major and occupation. One way to do this is by adopting practices to promote women’s recruitment and retention in STEM majors, a topic addressed later in this article.

To me, it seems like an apples to oranges comparison to look at a new hire's salary compared to the salary of someone hired ten years ago so to say the pay gap widens over the years is not really an accurate statement. What was the starting salary of those who were hired ten years earlier? Was the gender gap in starting salaries narrower or wider at that time? It's not really clear what sort of longitudinal data they've collected.

 

[franklin]

Victimhood: A coveted status sought after by liberals.

Isn't victimhood the m.o. of you Tea Baggers? The news is against you, the academia is out to get you, the taxman is keeping you down, the PETA is taking yer meat, the world trade towers are plotting to eat your children, the RINO's are losing you elections, the CO2 is making the fake moon landing tapes...

 

[VINYLONE]

Victimhood: A coveted status sought after by liberals.

This is an incredibly inaccurate statement. Currently, the social landscape in this country is that everyone is a victim. Framing this issue of "victimhood" or "martyrdom" along party lines is myopic beyond belief.