Mid-day Rant fueled by Jazz Kool-Aid
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Jerry Lundegaard
Banned
1. The point of this thread is about the Jazz's outlook for this upcoming season and beyond.
2. If I thought Hayward had a bigger chance of being a bust than a serviceable role player, I wouldn't have included him in my outlook. He's got an incredibly deceptive quick first step, can handle the ball, and has a point guards feel for the game - at 6'8 that usually translates to something other than a stiff.
The Ghost of Blue Edwards
Member
Let's get it straight. I didn't declare the Jazz doomed because of the pick of Hawyard. I declared the Jazz doomed about 2 years ago when my sudden awareness of Kevin O'Connor's incompetence and stubborn refusal to take even marginal risks made it clear to me what the future held in store for the team. Hawyard is just a small knot in a string of ridiculously incompetent, cynical, and risk-averse decision making by the FO.
Jerry Lundegaard
Banned
You can't be a cowboy GM when you're running a small market team like the Jazz. The only move I really questioned was Memo's extension. That was retarded.
And I was just at a wedding with Blue Edwards a couple weekends ago here in Chicago. Great guy.
I have to say I am still not sure about us picking hayward. But it wasn't because I didn't think he couldn't become a decent NBA player. I just didn't see how he would fit with our current roster.
The Thriller
Well-Known Member
too long.
So let me summarize most of our feelings:
#1 we have no big man right now.
#2 Hayward hopefully will contribute immediately. Sucks if he doesn't. Especially since we're losing our best offensive player down low this offseason. And may lose our best player here in a few seasons.
#3 Many here don't see a very high ceiling for Hayward.
Refute that if you dare. And please, don't take 10 paragraphs to do so.
So let me summarize most of our feelings:
#1 we have no big man right now.
#2 Hayward hopefully will contribute immediately. Sucks if he doesn't. Especially since we're losing our best offensive player down low this offseason. And may lose our best player here in a few seasons.
#3 Many here don't see a very high ceiling for Hayward.
Refute that if you dare. And please, don't take 10 paragraphs to do so.
Jerry Lundegaard
Banned
1. That was part of my point. The three we have are better than any we could've drafted at 9. I also stated the need to sign a Brendan Haywood-type and how crucial that could be. Thanks for reading though
2. Your waffling statement about Hayward has nothing to do with Boozer's presence, or lack there of if he leaves, down low. Not sure how to respond to the Deron inference.
3. I'm well aware, that's why I wrote such a long post hoping to give those another perspective - rather than one sentence making some sweeping statements one way or another.
I agree with pretty much everything thing Chi said besides trusting that Fess and Kosta will come into this season prepared.
The Thriller
Well-Known Member
Not a chance. Aldrich is 10x better than Kosta is. Memo is injured so his future is quite uncertain. And Fess is a FA, so he might not even be back. Aldrich is way better than Kosta and Fess. Defensively, he's still better than Memo. sorry you don't feel that way.
Brendon Haywood isn't coming to the Jazz. There are more teams out there with more money that will sign him. Sorry that you think that. Don't be too disappointed when he's not signed by the Jazz.
There are plenty of other players that we could have drafted that would be at least as good as our current big men and have a much higher ceiling. I'm sorry if you truly believe that Hayward was the best player available. Even if you did that's only your opinion that isn't shared by an obviously growing vocal group that criticized the Jazz's draft. Many preferred big men and wings such as the following: Sanders, Aldrich, Patteron, Babbit, George, and Henry over Hayward.
Maybe you should try and look at things through their perspective.
I'm also sorry that you actually expect anyone to read your 100 page report.
Wait what? How is hoping for Haywood to bring immediate impact a waffling statement? If he doesn't (which is more likely than not, as he's brought on to be the 2nd or 3rd string wing), we're getting worse since we're losing Boozer (a starter and allstar) this offseason. If things continue to get worse, Deron's checking out. Argue with that if you want, sorry if you don't understand this simple concept.
Have you noticed how many people have admitted to not reading your post because it's too long? Perhaps you should write to those actually reading this board since obviously no one is getting your point. It's a part of good and effective writing, write to your audience. No one wants to read a 100 page report on your opinion.
Give your perspective in simple paragraphs, like me!
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jimmy eat jazz
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And of course your positing of the moronic, ill-informed, ignorant, pseudo-science theory of "genetic economics" makes you an oh so credible observer of just about anything, right?