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Are you sure that Eddie playing bass on studio albums wasn't more about him being an egomaniacal control-freak, as opposed to Anthony being a crappy bass player?

While I absolutely think there is some truth to this, Anthony still was a rotten bass player. As far as the live performances go - listen to the bass lines on the albums and then watch "Live Without a Net". The bass lines live are much simpler and there is definitely a qualitative difference.
 
Usually DDL is my go to song on 1984. The first minute of the song is ****ing great. Panama, Hot for Teacher and Top Jimmy are all awesome too. I always forget about I'll Wait and I like Jump.
 
For an often overlooked *** kicking song:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0XdzSMzwgw


My personal favorite Eddie guitar song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuyvT8nFMLY

Now, I'm gonna go work on my bitchin' Camaro. **** yeah!
 
Not only is this the best VH song ever it is among the best music videos ever made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwi8m4SIejE

A few other great VH songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkFqLQWy5fA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyb8pMsyPFw

Listen at the 3 min mark. One of Eddie's best solos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LOkTGpaTYA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7lq9clC7bU&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-eR35VoDOg&feature=related
 
By the way, who would have ever thought that the kid on the cover of the Balance album would one day be VH's bass player?
 
While I absolutely think there is some truth to this, Anthony still was a rotten bass player. As far as the live performances go - listen to the bass lines on the albums and then watch "Live Without a Net". The bass lines live are much simpler and there is definitely a qualitative difference.

If we were talking about Primus, you may have a valid argument. But we're talking about VH. The bass line is amost inconsequential. Michael Anthony's technical ability with a bass is overshadowed by his vocal contributions, in terms of their overall sound. IMO, VH is a better band with Anthony regardless of how well he can or can't play the bass.
 
Beyond about 3 or 4 songs, Van Hagar was total crap.
 
Beyond about 3 or 4 songs, Van Hagar was total crap.

So which 3 or 4 songs and how do they differ significantly from the "crap"?

Me thinks this is more about your childhood memories being assaulted more so than it is about actual music quality.
 
I was 15 when 5150 was released, so I feel like my musical taste was still forming, but I was a fan of VH by then, so I definitely had bias. My wife, who is 5 years my junior, became familiar with VH during the Hagar years, so she prefers that incarnation of the band.

I think you are correct, scat.
 
So which 3 or 4 songs and how do they differ significantly from the "crap"?

Me thinks this is more about your childhood memories being assaulted more so than it is about actual music quality.

I was in my 20's during the van Hagar horror, so nice try but no.I actually used spotify to see which I would say were ok and which were crap, and found out you are right.



It is all crap.
 
So which 3 or 4 songs and how do they differ significantly from the "crap"?

Me thinks this is more about your childhood memories being assaulted more so than it is about actual music quality.

Scat, I know we'll never agree on this topic and that's cool, but Van Halen with Roth was an event, they were our generation's Zeppelin or Stones. When they came to town, you did what you could to get tickets. I was excited to hear them when I heard Hagar replaced Roth and when I first heard 5150, my first thought was "where'd the rock go?" They went from being Zeppelin to being Foreigner, from the Stones to Journey. They had some nice songs, but that's it...nice. The rough edges were polished and they became just another band with songs that fit nicely between the Outfield and Mister Mister on a 1986 radio playlist. That's not what I wanted from Van Halen.
 
Scat, I know we'll never agree on this topic and that's cool, but Van Halen with Roth was an event, they were our generation's Zeppelin or Stones. When they came to town, you did what you could to get tickets. I was excited to hear them when I heard Hagar replaced Roth and when I first heard 5150, my first thought was "where'd the rock go?" They went from being Zeppelin to being Foreigner, from the Stones to Journey. They had some nice songs, but that's it...nice. The rough edges were polished and they became just another band with songs that fit nicely between the Outfield and Mister Mister on a 1986 radio playlist. That's not what I wanted from Van Halen.

This.

While Sammy brought a new musical dimension to VH (and actually improved the overall musicianship) they definitely lost the edge that made them an *** kicking hard rock band.

Oh, and for the record, I thought Sammy's pre-VH stuff was also edgy and tough. On paper they should have remained the kind of band they were. But somehow the merger softened them both.
 
Scat, I know we'll never agree on this topic and that's cool, but Van Halen with Roth was an event, they were our generation's Zeppelin or Stones. When they came to town, you did what you could to get tickets. I was excited to hear them when I heard Hagar replaced Roth and when I first heard 5150, my first thought was "where'd the rock go?" They went from being Zeppelin to being Foreigner, from the Stones to Journey. They had some nice songs, but that's it...nice. The rough edges were polished and they became just another band with songs that fit nicely between the Outfield and Mister Mister on a 1986 radio playlist. That's not what I wanted from Van Halen.

Very well said.
 
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