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Separating the art from the artist

It’s a tough line to draw. Art connects with us on such deep levels that it’s hard to separate the two.

When it comes to art I believe most of the really good stuff comes from pain, guilt, shame, anger, regret, all the negative emotions. It shapes the artist and is in many cases their ultimate undoing. Some do awful things and are awful people. But aren’t we all awful to some degree?

We’re lucky if an artist lives long enough to disappoint us. Being a piece of **** is part of the human experience and art does don’t discriminate. Art imitates life yada yada.

I’ve found that while those bad things make me feel a little different about the artist as a person. But I don’t know them. I like their creations and know their ****ed up trauma is what births a lot of the great stuff. I remember the connections, experiences, and emotions their art makes me feel. But I guess it depends on what they did too? Like everyone makes mistakes, but did they repent and make amends? Was what they did even true? I guess it depends. If you rape or kill someone I don’t think I would like it in the first place, but I would not like it after learning of something that bad.

I also make art and know many artists so I’m biased. But you can’t really separate the two completely, but understand it’s part of what made it great in the first place. It depends on how big a piece of **** you are.


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fishonjazz said:
Um.... Puff daddy (or whatever he calls himself now) has to make the list.

One that stands out for me is trump. I couldn't separate the rape, crime, corruption, scandals, lies, and overall douchebaginess of the man from the poor job he did as president to be able to vote for or support him.
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I thought about listing P. Diddly, but, honestly, I have no real connection to his music.

You can call Trump many things, and lord knows I have, but one of them is not "artist."
 
Eminence said:
The Gaiman one is the first one to make me personally sad, as Sandman is such a big part of my history with comics, and I've enjoyed plenty of his short stories as well. Prior to that I've never really thought about the artist while enjoying most art. But I'm not sure I'll be able to do that with his stuff going forward. Guess I'm still working through it.

Agreed that, to the best of our knowledge, CK didn't deserve the reaction his situation got. The guy weirdly propositioned some folks and backed off when they declined. Who cares.
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Fun fact: I'm actually listed in the "Thank Yous" in Preludes & Nocturnes. You know the original inker (who took over pencils after a few issues), Mike Dringenberg, is from Utah, right?

The first work of both Gaiman & Pratchett that I read was Good Omens. I swear, if anything negative comes out about Terry Pratchett, I'm just going to give up on humanity.
 
gandalfe said:
I thought about listing P. Diddly, but, honestly, I have no real connection to his music.

You can call Trump many things, and lord knows I have, but one of them is not "artist."
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"art" of the deal?
What about all the **** he throws at the wall? Not art?
 
gandalfe said:
Fun fact: I'm actually listed in the "Thank Yous" in Preludes & Nocturnes. You know the original inker (who took over pencils after a few issues), Mike Dringenberg, is from Utah, right?

The first work of both Gaiman & Pratchett that I read was Good Omens. I swear, if anything negative comes out about Terry Pratchett, I'm just going to give up on humanity.
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That's pretty cool. I did not know that, but I'm not a Utahan (what do y'all call yourselves?). I'm an Iowegian currently.

Yeah, Pratchett would be awfully upsetting as well.
 
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