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The Polish had death camps?

babe said:
People, people, people. . . . .

This thread is truly the stupidest one ever in JazzFanz history, and that goes for both the critics and defenders of Obama, so far.

President Obama's statement is orders of magnitude more intelligent than the Polish miniisters and others complaining about what he said, and all of you miserable prattlers in here.

The President clearly understood that the Polish people were the ones suffering in the Warsaw ghetto and the death camps. Polish nationals, including Jews. The camps he was speaking about were physically located in Poland, and in the entire context there was no question about the German (Nazi) occupiers being responsible for putting Polish people in there.

I never, never thought I'd see the day when I'd be saying Obama is smarter than JazzFanz.

But here it is.
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Shhh....let me continue baiting people.
 
Hantlers said:
Naw I don't.

I did find the Polish Foreign Minister essentially labeling Obama as "incompetent and ignorant" very interesting.
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What do they know. They put a screen door on a submarine and invented the solar powered flashlight.
 
Looks like a couple of posters had their faces rubbed in their garbage and don't like the smell.

I haven't reacted because I just don't see much to react to. This is one politician scoring points off another politician. Possibly in the future, Obama will be more careful by using a phrase like "death camps in Poland". Little stuff like this comes out of the mouths of every human, including every politician, and routinely blows over.
 
We're seriously talking about this? Did this actually make the news? Apparently it did if we're talking about it.

First off, it's stupid we're talking about this. Everyone knew what the President was saying. Duh.
Secondly, I doubt most of you know the history of Jews in Poland. To make the Poles out as these sweet welcoming and wonderful people loving their Jewish population until Hitler came about ignores some pretty important (yet apparently forgotten) parts of Polish history. Before Hitler had even invaded Poland had passed anti-Semitic laws similar to those in Germany. Before Hitler was even conceived Poles had attacked, bullied, taken advantage, etc their Jewish population many times over.

For Poles to become "all up in arms" over this is hilarious considering their own history.

But whatever. Hitler's Germany was thee only anti-Semitic country ever and Obama sucks.

Carry on
 
Here's some interesting reading...

  • Beginning in 1935, the Polish government initiated a policy to elevate Poland to an international position on par with the world's other great powers. This policy, which was directed by Polish Foreign Minister Jozef Beck, had two dimensions to it. The first was for Poland to establish a colonial presence in Africa. The second was to use some of the African territory Poland hoped to acquire as a place to forcibly relocate its over three million Jews. The territory Beck and others had in mind was the island of Madagascar.
  • In August 1936, the Polish government ordered that all shops include the name of the owner on their business sign. This order was tantamount to specifically marking Jewish-owned businesses. Attacks on Jewish businesses surged after the marking order went into effect.
  • In May 1937, the membership of the Polish Medical Association adopted a paragraph into their professional charter excluding Jews from the medical profession.
  • Also in May 1937, the Polish Bar Association adopted a similar measure. This was followed by official state action in May 1938 restricting the ability of Jewish lawyers to attain licenses to practice law.
  • In January 1938, the General Assembly of Journalists in the city of Wilno added a provision to its by-laws stating that anyone Jewish could not belong to their organization.
  • In April 1938, the Bank Polski, the Polish state's largest financial institution, adopted a provision excluding Jews.
    Most importantly, in March 1938 the Polish government announced a new "Citizenship Law." This law stated that as of October 30, 1938, the passports of Polish citizens who had lived abroad for more than five years would be revoked if those citizens had not "maintained contact with the [home] country".[3] Although this law did not target Jews specifically, its effect had a dramatic impact on Jews who had lived outside of Poland. One such community of Jewish expatriates were the tens of thousands of Polish Jews residing in neighboring Germany. The Polish action would have effectively rendered these people "stateless" on German soil, making them a German problem. Nazi officials, particularly Heinrich Himmler, chief of the SS, and his subordinate, Reinhard Heydrich, had planned since earlier in the year to force Jews - particularly Polish Jews - to leave Germany. On October 28-29, the SS and Gestapo detained 15,000 Polish Jews and sent them over the German frontier into Poland. These refugees were turned back by Polish border guards and then interned in a refugee camp "between" Germany and Poland at Zbaszyn. There they languished under terrible conditions until Poland finally relented and allowed them to enter the country in 1939

https://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Total/Polish Antisemitism.htm
 
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