Trey Burke... Keep or trade?

[fishonjazz]

Regardless of the Corbin part, I think the Jazz would have looked to trade up for Burke or MCW. Greatest position of need was PG and there really was no BPA anywhere in the draft. 2013 might go down as one of the all-time worsts. At least DL was able to draft a serviceable player in Trey and perhaps the steal of the draft in Gobert.

I agree.

I think we did well last year in the draft.... and still believe treys ceiling to be very low

 

[Coach Ellis]

Maybe you should wait and see Exum against other NBA players before claiming he's the greater option over Burke. Let's not forget Burke was drafted to be an "Alpha Dog" just the year before. That situation will work it self out, but I don't see any reason to assume Dante will be a better PG or player than Trey. Both have some serious issues they'll need to work tirelessly to overcome.

I don't disagree with your POV, except to point out that I wasn't proclaiming him anything yet. I'm hopeful that he becomes the type of All-Star player that many think he is capable of being down the road. As a long-time football coach, I love competition on my team. I love to have kids fighting for jobs and playing time because it keeps the whole team sharp when they have to fight for every snap. Regardless of who starts, I want to keep both guys as long as it's financially responsible to do so.

I'm hoping that Exum is the Alpha Dog that he was drafted to be and he ends up starting at the PG position. I think that his potential to physically dominate smaller guards would make that his best position moving forward.

I also think that you keep Burke if Exum outplays him for the starting job and play him off the bench and in combo with Exum and Burks.

Having two young, starter quality PGs running the offense at all times makes a lot of sense when you consider how important the PG is in a P&R heavy offense. Especially at what Burke is going to cost.

Best case scenario is that Exum lights it up early and often and forces his way into the starting lineup. Burke fills in for him off the bench and there's not a significant drop-off in production since Trey will be matching up against many 2nd unit players. His contract isn't bad and he has leadership qualities that I'd love to see coming off the bench. I think that he'd be a guy who would force other bench guys to play up to their potential. Give me Gobert, Tomic, Evans, Hood, Burks and Burke off the bench. . . that gives the coaching staff some great rotation potential. Much better depth than they had last year with Marvin, Jefferson (even though those two were starters and getting too many minutes, I still consider them depth players), Biedrins, Rush, JLIII and Garrett.

Here's my post. I bolded key points about what my hope for him is, and added a clarifying point in red. I never said that he was better, just that I hope he becomes a better PG than Trey and earns a job in the starting lineup. IMO, he's a combo guard who likes to slash, drive to the hoop and then either finish himself for kick out to an open shooter. Adjusting to a P&R heavy offense will be a challenge for a young player like him, as will jumping up several levels of competition. Only they know, but I think that it's not unreasonable for the Jazz front office and coaching staff to hope that he becomes the team's #1 star player. Many people thought he was a top 3 pick in a really strong draft.

I guess we may have a disconnect in the term Alpha dog. I assumed he meant the guy running the team.

That's pretty much what I meant. I really think that Dante was drafted to be that guy down the road and I think that his ceiling is much higher than Trey's is as a starting PG. For that reason, I hope that Dante Exum looks great as a PG and forces his way into the starting lineup. I love Trey Burke's swagger and confidence and I think that he would be great off the bench and a mismatch for the Jazz if that rotation becomes a reality. I just think that it's the best case scenario for the starting lineup if Dante Exum plays like the stud he was drafted to be sooner as opposed to later. I certainly don't want anything handed to him. I want him to work his *** off and earn it.

 

[MoTappin]

Cannot believe anyone would trade Trey right now. Runner up to ROY and clutch as can be. We are quick to agree
that Corbin was clueless.... Why would we part with a good, potentially really good young PG?

Exum and Burke is our backcourt for the next 5 years

This.

 

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I wonder if Trey will get a tattoo that says "Backup" or something like that. Maybe he could get R-I-D-E P-I-N-E across his knuckles. That'd be badass.

 

[franklin]

Kanter has far more physical gifts than limitations. A 6'11" big, big man who has a true post game, but can also shoot it could be considered "elite" in and of itself. Is he developed? No. But that versatility is RARE.

Also, check out the offensive rebounder list:
https://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/rebounds/sort/avgOffensiveRebounds

Kanter's ranking on that is even more impressive when you look at the ORB% at Basketball reference. Kanter's ORB% is 11.6, which is the same as Joakim Noah, who is ranked as the 4th best offensive rebounder in the league. Pretty damn good. May even say that is an elite skill he has.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kanteen01.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/noahjo01.html

Why doesn't he show up when you filter by RP48 or TRB%?

 

[Sexual Favors]

Why doesn't he show up when you filter by RP48 or TRB%?

Dunno. That's a question for someone from Basketball-reference, but the stat I referenced is accurate. Check the links and scroll down to "Advanced" on each link for each player. Last year, their ORB% was identical (as was Zach Randolph's).