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US and Taliban to start talks to end war.

Candrew is not an Obama hater. So big whiff there. Also the US has been talking to the Taliban for a long time now. There are numerous articles on it if you wish to look them up.

I don't need to look them up. I already knew that they were trying to find a diplomatic solution to this situation. This article is different because it is suggestion that they are making progress unlike in the past. You sound bitter about it.
 
On another note we shouldn't be helping the Syrian rebels. I can see some arguments for it, but we've proven our involvement
in the middle east only does more harm than good. They don't respect us overall, it costs too much, and we cause more problems.
 

Yea one of them being how the GOP has tried to stop anything from getting down. My glasses are not shaded just informed. You can pretend like my comment is bias but facts are that whatever the President has tried to accomplish the GOP has been against it. But it was a jab so I apologize if you're offended which it seems a few here were.
 
Then we are no better than them in some reguards. Even when its hard to win wars the right way we have to.
Otherwise cut the America is special BS. We either do things the right way, or we are nothing special.

Then what do you propose? I'm willing to listen to you.
 
Yea one of them being how the GOP has tried to stop anything from getting down. My glasses are not shaded just informed. You can pretend like my comment is bias but facts are that whatever the President has tried to accomplish the GOP has been against it. But it was a jab so I apologize if you're offended which it seems a few here were.

Again with all that GOP crap. Piss on them. Also for the record the Dems do the same thing to a republican president. So piss on them too. Still rocking them glasses.
 
If some of the Taliban start talking about peace then they'll fracture into Taliban A, Taliban B, and so on, and start a whole new round of fighting. That's how these domination groups always work. See 1800's Mexico for example. They're not interested in mutual agreement on peace and working together. They want power and will forever fight for whatever nonsense reasons they've built up to support their clan as the ruling class.
 
I don't need to look them up. I already knew that they were trying to find a diplomatic solution to this situation. This article is different because it is suggestion that they are making progress unlike in the past. You sound bitter about it.

All it says is that they are going to go sit down and negotiate. I am astounded that we are there at all. So yes I am pissed that Americans, and our friends, are dying over there. Damn right I am bitter! Has nothing to do with your R v. D world though.
 
Yea one of them being how the GOP has tried to stop anything from getting down. My glasses are not shaded just informed. You can pretend like my comment is bias but facts are that whatever the President has tried to accomplish the GOP has been against it. But it was a jab so I apologize if you're offended which it seems a few here were.

I liked your first comment, but stoked has a good point as well. I'm particularly annoyed with the GOP's feet dragging though. Nothing's lower than purposefully trying to keep the economy in the crapper just to blame it on Obama in order to beat him. It's downright disgusting but they didn't care. Thought the voters would be dumb enough to fall for it.
 
On another note we shouldn't be helping the Syrian rebels. I can see some arguments for it, but we've proven our involvement
in the middle east only does more harm than good. They don't respect us overall, it costs too much, and we cause more problems.

I agree. I want no part of Syria. It is a no win for the US. Assad will never be an American ally and neither will the rebels.
 
On another note we shouldn't be helping the Syrian rebels. I can see some arguments for it, but we've proven our involvement
in the middle east only does more harm than good. They don't respect us overall, it costs too much, and we cause more problems.

Problems like the Arab Spring? Would that have happened without 9-11 and the U.S. response to it?
 
Problems like the Arab Spring? Would that have happened without 9-11 and the U.S. response to it?

Egypt is less our friend now than they were before. Syria will not be our friend afterwards.
 
Egypt is less our friend now than they were before. Syria will not be our friend afterwards.

But are they going to be better off in the long run for their people? They don't have to be friends with us. They really have no reason to be. The U.S. has been very heavy handed throughout the Middle East since the end of WWII and we've backed mass-murdering dictators because it's expedient for our interests at that moment. I think they have every reason to hate us.

What good I hope may come from 9-11 and the Afghan and Iraq wars is that the people of the Middle East can take the power back. I've never met a regular working person who was more interested in destroying the U.S. than getting to and from work, supporting their family and living in relative peace.
 
But are they going to be better off in the long run for their people? They don't have to be friends with us. They really have no reason to be. The U.S. has been very heavy handed throughout the Middle East since the end of WWII and we've backed mass-murdering dictators because it's expedient for our interests at that moment. I think they have every reason to hate us.

What good I hope may come from 9-11 and the Afghan and Iraq wars is that the people of the Middle East can take the power back. I've never met a regular working person who was more interested in destroying the U.S. than getting to and from work, supporting their family and living in relative peace.

The problem is that is not who is getting the power.
 
Don't get into peace talks with them. Capture a commander and kindly inform him that if they ever attack us again that we will turn everything they love into a parking lot. Then pack up everything and leave.

...well, the USA has done it before...twice! Atomic bombs during World War II. I'm sure the military big wigs are just dying to use those same weapons or newer models on someone!
 
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