What this team needs is solid role players.

[cctrackstar]

Seriously, the Jazz have lots of players who are, -or at least think they are- starting players.

Raja: yeah, we know
Harris: former all star, they can't let that go
CJ: plays better when starting, because he sulks otherwise
Paul: he said himself he should be starting
AL: seems obvious he's a starter
Favors: future of the franchise, right?
Kanter: third pick, should be starting, or at least that's what people assume
Burks: lottery pick, same as above

Only these players seem ok as role players off the bench:

Watson: thrives on the second unit
Tinsley: who's he?
Hayward: funny, he's a player who I think could come off the bench, yet he's starting.
Howard: can't complain what with the Jazz giving him one more chance to play in the league.
Jeremy Evans: lucky to be in the league, no matter how high he can jump. (I like him, i do, but he's got a lot to learn.)

Not everyone can start, and I know they all want to, but when players complain about whether or not they start, it damages team chemistry. Probably an insecurity problem.

Have you heard of the phraze: too many cheifs not enough indians? Same idea, if more players were at peace with a supporting role, than players who can't take over a game won't screw things up as much because they try to. (CJ) More wins, more mins for everyone.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Seriously, the Jazz have lots of players who are, -or at least think they are- starting players.

Raja: yeah, we know
Harris: former all star, they can't let that go
CJ: plays better when starting, because he sulks otherwise
Paul: he said himself he should be starting
AL: seems obvious he's a starter
Favors: future of the franchise, right?
Kanter: third pick, should be starting, or at least that's what people assume
Burks: lottery pick, same as above

Only these players seem ok as role players off the bench:

Watson: thrives on the second unit
Tinsley: who's he?
Hayward: funny, he's a player who I think could come off the bench, yet he's starting.
Howard: can't complain what with the Jazz giving him one more chance to play in the league.
Jeremy Evans: lucky to be in the league, no matter how high he can jump. (I like him, i do, but he's got a lot to learn.)

Not everyone can start, and I know they all want to, but when players complain about whether or not they start, it damages team chemistry. Probably an insecurity problem.

Have you heard of the phraze: too many cheifs not enough indians? Same idea, if more players were at peace with a supporting role, than players who can't take over a game won't screw things up as much because they try to. (CJ) More wins, more mins for everyone.

This is how I feel as well!

 

[Favors Flave]

Odd you think the lottery picks should start but when its Hayward you believe he should come off the bench

 

[Cope]

Actually what we need and what we want are two different things.

What we need? Superstars - 1 or 2 - to win the title OR Favors/Kanter/Burks/Hayward - 2 of them to become one. If this were to happen then the 'role' players would fall into place as we would have 2 solid stars and leaders of the team. Because we don't right now, we have a bunch of 'potential' players with a few that thing they are possible stars or go to men (Jefferson for example) this complicates things.

It doesn't help either that where there is 'problems' with people thinking they shoudl be starting, ect. are the positions we have the potential - IE Wings and Bigs. PG is the only spot that its pretty set with Harris as the starter and Watson as the solid backup. On the Wings you have 2 vets and 2 young players. At the bigs you have 2 vets and 2 young players.

 

[cctrackstar]

Odd you think the lottery picks should start but when its Hayward you believe he should come off the bench

Ok, clarification time: in the first part I am stating what I think are most fan's perceptions of players, not my personal opinion, based on what I've read, or heard.

If you want my personal opinion, here it is:

Raja: Burks hasn't passed him up yet, but I like Gordan starting here. (yes i know that conflicts with my earlier post)

Harris: Benefited from the style of play in Dallas. Average in any other system.

CJ: plays better when starting, because he sulks otherwise (no change)

Paul: he said himself he should be starting. And he has shown a lot, but if he's starting, he needs to have talent around him to excel.

AL: His defense has improved i think, and contrary to what folks say, he does pass out if he isn't in the right position on the floor.

Favors: I don't think he's ready to start, and there have been plenty of talented athletes that don't make it because they never quite get it. Time will tell.

Kanter: Also has a lot to learn, and will be hard pressed to push Al out of the spot. Also, in my opinion he could actually play off the bench his whole career and have a great career because he's a big time energy guy.

Burks: I believe that once he adjusts to the NBA he will start, and may even be a superstar. (knock on wood)

My second paragraph stays the same, because that was based on my personal opinion.

 

[cctrackstar]

In regards to Paul Millsap:

Paul is a starter in the league, he has proven that. He is not however a star, and I think this is where the conflict comes from. As long as Boozer was on the team, Paul backed him up because for whatever reason, Boozer was a star. He had a powerful offensive game that at times couldn't be stopped.

Folks seem to think that Favors has the potential to be a star, and if they are right, than Millsap either comes off the bench or he moves to a new team. It takes more to start than just being a starter, you have to be the best starter at your position on the team. Millsap is for now, but he could be surpassed by either Favors or Kanter eventually.

 

[cctrackstar]

What we need? Superstars - 1 or 2

Great point. If we have a couple of players that become undisputed superstars, than there would be a lot less jockeying for position.

Burks? I sure hope so.
Favors? If he does, we'll become a contender.
Kanter? not only is this hard for international players not named Dirk or Nash or Manu or Gasol or -wow, that's a lot of names, sure why not, but he's got to get more elevation in his legs.
Hayward? he's more of a Hornacek type player. A role player with his number retired.

Does anyone really believe that Hayward will be a superstar? I just can't see it. Don't get me wrong, I like him on the team, and think he's a very valuable player, but he doesn't quite have that extra little wow that you need to be a superstar. If anyone thinks he is, I'd like to hear why.