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Lol at people turning up their noses at Hezonja. This guy is good and we would be damn lucky to draft him. I don't think he drops lower than 6 and could go higher. I'm not worried about defensive concerns. He has lapses where he doesn't put in as much effort on D, but he is a capable defender when he wants to be, and we've all seen the impact Gobert has on everyone else's effort on D. Also, with Gobert and Exum being limited offensively, I don't like the idea of drafting a defensive wing who can't shoot. We can find that elsewhere. Hezonja would be a big win, considering our current draft position.
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He's probably one of the few players in this draft I'd sell the farm for. Philly is tied for 3rd right now, and if luck was on our side, I'd love to see them bumped to 4 or 5. I don't think they will trade someone like Russell at #2, but they might trade at 4 or 5 for multiple picks.
 
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Hack said:
Was Ginobili ever heralded as a great defender?

Maybe he's better at defense than people know so far. Having Rudy and Favors on the back line can change how well your wings play on the perimeter.

I think with the players we have we can afford to add someone who isn't a defensive stud. Some more offense would be good at this point.


I haven't watched him play much, but he looks awfully intriguing in his highlights.
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Ginobli was pretty tenacious. He would give up his body on plays pretty regularly. He's 6'4" with pretty average length though. He was more about quickness and IQ.
 
framer said:
I'm done with Defensive liabilities. Our team identity is Defense. Bring in people that can play it, I don't think Stanley and Winslow are slouches.
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Gotta have scoring players sometime though, just look at the 3rd quarter tonight. The problem with Kanter's offense was he couldn't and wouldn't pass. If Kanter could have learned to pass and could have stuck here.
 
this is the guy worth tanking for. this is the guy worth letting very good, valuable assets like paul milsap walk for for nothin.
this is the savior. lmao. the perpetual rebuild continues. and the sheep keep grazin. #baaaaaa
 
Jazz Insider said:
this is the guy worth tanking for. this is the guy worth letting very good, valuable assets like paul milsap walk for for nothin.
this is the savior. lmao. the perpetual rebuild continues. and the sheep keep grazin. #baaaaaa
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Dude's like the Croatian Tracy McGrady...
 
freakazoid said:
Lol at people turning up their noses at Hezonja. This guy is good and we would be damn lucky to draft him. I don't think he drops lower than 6 and could go higher. I'm not worried about defensive concerns. He has lapses where he doesn't put in as much effort on D, but he is a capable defender when he wants to be, and we've all seen the impact Gobert has on everyone else's effort on D. Also, with Gobert and Exum being limited offensively, I don't like the idea of drafting a defensive wing who can't shoot. We can find that elsewhere. Hezonja would be a big win, considering our current draft position.
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He's probably one of the few players in this draft I'd sell the farm for. Philly is tied for 3rd right now, and if luck was on our side, I'd love to see them bumped to 4 or 5. I don't think they will trade someone like Russell at #2, but they might trade at 4 or 5 for multiple picks.
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I was expecting that too, which was why I was surprised to see him at 9 on the lottery machine.
 
Catchall said:
Anyone who goes 8/8 from 3-pt range is a pretty special shooter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uowz0HBafrk
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isn't their 3pt line closer to the rim tho? i heard somehwhere that a lot of scouts actually kind of look very closely at the player as a shooter, rather than just %s in cases like this. some good shooters are just great shooters because of their technique and whatnot. others become good by practicing and developing very specific spots. for those who are closer to the latter, this actually hurts them in the NBA. cuz they've become accustomed to being good at and being used to shootng from a spot that is right INSIDE the 3pt line in the NBA. this is often called the worst shot in basketball, cuz it's the furthest you can shoot from the basket without gettin an extra point--the long distance 2. very very few guys have gotten elite at this and made a living out of these shots (best case being dirk nowitzki) but for most others its a curse. not sayin its the case here, just sayin.
 
Jazz Insider said:
isn't their 3pt line closer to the rim tho? i heard somehwhere that a lot of scouts actually kind of look very closely at the player as a shooter, rather than just %s in cases like this. some good shooters are just great shooters because of their technique and whatnot. others become good by practicing and developing very specific spots. for those who are closer to the latter, this actually hurts them in the NBA. cuz they've become accustomed to being good at and being used to shootng from a spot that is right INSIDE the 3pt line in the NBA. this is often called the worst shot in basketball, cuz it's the furthest you can shoot from the basket without gettin an extra point--the long distance 2. very very few guys have gotten elite at this and made a living out of these shots (best case being dirk nowitzki) but for most others its a curse. not sayin its the case here, just sayin.
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I think it might be, but it is further out than the college 3-point line, so I don't think it would be much of a problem. One reason Herzonja is a good shooter is that he is able to get up high and have a high release, it's also pretty quick as well. I love the guys athleticism as well.
 
Jazz Insider said:
this is the guy worth tanking for. this is the guy worth letting very good, valuable assets like paul milsap walk for for nothin.
this is the savior. lmao. the perpetual rebuild continues. and the sheep keep grazin. #baaaaaa
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I supportive of hezzoniojaa unfortunately we have no chance
 
Jazz Insider said:
isn't their 3pt line closer to the rim tho? i heard somehwhere that a lot of scouts actually kind of look very closely at the player as a shooter, rather than just %s in cases like this. some good shooters are just great shooters because of their technique and whatnot. others become good by practicing and developing very specific spots. for those who are closer to the latter, this actually hurts them in the NBA. cuz they've become accustomed to being good at and being used to shootng from a spot that is right INSIDE the 3pt line in the NBA. this is often called the worst shot in basketball, cuz it's the furthest you can shoot from the basket without gettin an extra point--the long distance 2. very very few guys have gotten elite at this and made a living out of these shots (best case being dirk nowitzki) but for most others its a curse. not sayin its the case here, just sayin.
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Just an observation, but maybe if you bothered to watch the video you quoted, it would have made your post obsolete, as the video clearly shows him hitting from everywhere, including several shots that were Jimmeresque.
 
After watching the first set of highlights, what I liked and disliked:

Liked - his athletic ability, jump shot and his ability to get to the rim and finish. A few of those plays he just blew by guys and then dunked it. Also he had a few nice steals and a block. So it seems that if he wants to he has the physical tools to play defense (something that Kanter lacked).


Disliked - waving off guys to go one on one. Now in certain situations I am ok with this because it means he isn't afraid to take the big shot but it can be a sign of selfishness if he is doing it often. In the highlights I saw him do it twice so it only makes me thing the selfish label should be a consideration in evaluating him. However, I also watched his interaction with his teammates and it seemed as though he was engaged with them and they responded back. There was no aloofness at least on these highlights. Again this concern is tough to evaluate especially from some highlights.

I would be excited to have a dynamic scoring on the Jazz. The Jazz need to have a few players who can get their own shot when things break down. Right now the Jazz have Hayward and Burke. Burks certainly can too but it would be nice to have a guy who can help Hayward on the scoring end.

I personally don't think he will be there at 9 but I would be just fine with him talent wise and as long as there are no major red flags in his personally, I would love it if the Jazz drafted him.
 
freakazoid said:
Just an observation, but maybe if you bothered to watch the video you quoted, it would have made your post obsolete, as the video clearly shows him hitting from everywhere, including several shots that were Jimmeresque.
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cmon bro, you know highlights can be misleadin. anyone can look like michael jordan/jimmer on youtube higlights
 
cowhide said:
I think the money is a big factor no matter where the player comes from.:D
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ya but in euro the culture is just different, since players can go pro at like 13 or whatever and by the time they get drafted in the NBA, can sometimes be making equal or more money over there than their rookie contract here. look at ricky rubio for example.
 
green said:
"Inconsistent effort on defense"

That scares the crap out of me. We are 4-1 since Kanter left. I don't want some soft, euro chucker who is a diva and thinks he should be MJ in NYC.

No thanks.
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I'm sending Jack Bauer over to your house to beat some sense into you. If that doesn't work he'll start removing fingers.
 
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