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da ThRONe said:
Trey played in the toughest conference at the time. While Jimmer and Adam didn't. Which is completely beside my point. If Jimmer and Adam was in Trey's position of being a young player showing plenty of flashes I would be saying the exact samething about either.

We know he hasn't, but how many second year pg's are playing at a consistent level? Especially now with the position being about as deep as it ever been in the history of the league? His situation with the team hasn't been consistent it's not realistic to expect his play to do so with so little experience.
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Don't get me wrong I'm happy with Burke's play lately but CJ Miles says hi
gregbroncs said:
And he was terrible his 1st year and has shown great growth. But even Enes was with a college team. I don't know if he practiced or not did not keep up with him there but he was with a college team for a year before being drafted. I also think it's a lot different for a PG. But Enes is a fair comparison and he was terrible his 1st year.
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fishonjazz said:
I disagree.
I remember liking what I saw from him when he was actually able to get on the court.
I was always wishing he could get more minutes
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actually X played pretty good to start the year, he has since then hit the rookie wall
 
Enes was also physically able to compete in the NBA. Exum isn't. And Enes has never lacked confidence.
 
Stifle Tower said:
I agree. We did need to swing for the fences and with the way Trey played last season, PG was also our greatest area of need. We had our big rotation set (or so we thought) and starters at the wings. Exum and Embiid were about equal in terms of risk/reward. IMO, the only other viable options were Smart or Randle or possibly Vonleh, who some experts had fairly high. Smart has performed pretty much as advertised; he's struggling with his shooting. Surprisingly, Smart isn't averaging many more FG attempts than Exum (6 attempts per game vs. just under 5). He's about 4% better on his overall FG;s and 3's.

Wonder what others think. Better defender: Exum or Smart?
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smart, by far.
 
How big has/will being the starter help Exum. He isn't some overhyped weakling that spent half the year in the DLeague. He is the STARTING PG on a very hot team right now. If we finish the year 18-10, that's a .643 winning percentage, or 53 wins next year.

How does that help you get motivated, knowing you are the starting PG for a very, very good team? That has to help give you confidence while working to get bigger, stronger, faster. Once Exum decides to take it to the rim, watch out. Gobert and Exum P&R could be nasty. Alley oops all over the place. Unstoppable. With Gordan and Snell/Hood/Matthews/Burks on the wings? Our offense goes from horrible to incredible very quickly.

I think Exum starting this year will pay off big time this summer.
 
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green said:
How big has/will being the starter help Exum. He isn't some overhyped weakling that spent half the year in the DLeague. He is the STARTING PG on a very hot team right now. If we finish the year 18-10, that's a .643 winning percentage, or 53 wins next year.

How does that help you get motivated, knowing you are the starting PG for a very, very good team? That has to help give you confidence while working to get bigger, stronger, faster. Once Exum decides to take it to the rim, watch out. Gobert and Exum P&R could be nasty. Alley oops all over the place. Unstoppable. With Gordan and Snell/Hood/Matthews/Burks on the wings? Our offense goes from horrible to incredible very quickly.

I think Exum starting this year will pay off big time this summer.
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Good post
 
green said:
How big has/will being the starter help Exum. He isn't some overhyped weakling that spent half the year in the DLeague. He is the STARTING PG on a very hot team right now. If we finish the year 18-10, that's a .643 winning percentage, or 53 wins next year.

How does that help you get motivated, knowing you are the starting PG for a very, very good team? That has to help give you confidence while working to get bigger, stronger, faster. Once Exum decides to take it to the rim, watch out. Gobert and Exum P&R could be nasty. Alley oops all over the place. Unstoppable. With Gordan and Snell/Hood/Matthews/Burks on the wings? Our offense goes from horrible to incredible very quickly.

I think Exum starting this year will pay off big time this summer.
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Or it could work the exact opposite. Exum may think all he needs to do to help the team win is just continue to pass off to Hayward and go hide in the corner, shooting the occasional three. I'm of the opinion you should have to EARN your playing time on the team. Right now Exum is a 3rd-string PG at best. The motivation SHOULD be that to get ANY time on a winning team, he needs to prove it. Right now he's producing the least of any of the rotation players. Yet he starts. Fortunately. Snyder is now yanking him early and starting Trey in the 2nd half. I don't think Exum GETS IT yet. Snyder had said a couple of times he's told Dante to be aggressive and not worry about making mistakes. Dante continues to ignore that advice.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Or it could work the exact opposite. Exum may think all he needs to do to help the team win is just continue to pass off to Hayward and go hide in the corner, shooting the occasional three. I'm of the opinion you should have to EARN your playing time on the team. Right now Exum is a 3rd-string PG at best. The motivation SHOULD be that to get ANY time on a winning team, he needs to prove it. Right now he's producing the least of any of the rotation players. Yet he starts. Fortunately. Snyder is now yanking him early and starting Trey in the 2nd half. I don't think Exum GETS IT yet. Snyder had said a couple of times he's told Dante to be aggressive and not worry about making mistakes. Dante continues to ignore that advice.
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Quin has started holding him accountable. I've seen him yank him out several times already in the beginning of quarters(like 2-3 mins in) after he shows weak-minded-ness and softness and not enough aggression. Last game he got him out after 3 mins in the first Q. In the third Q, he didn't start him, he got him in with 7:30 to go, Dante made a couple of TO and Quin took him out with 3:30 to go in the quarter. He didn't get him back in the game. Trey played the last 15:30 mins of the game without a sub.
 
stitches said:
Quin has started holding him accountable. I've seen him yank him out several times already in the beginning of quarters(like 2-3 mins in) after he shows weak-minded-ness and softness and not enough aggression. Last game he got him out after 3 mins in the first Q. In the third Q, he didn't start him, he got him in with 7:30 to go, Dante made a couple of TO and Quin took him out with 3:30 to go in the quarter. He didn't get him back in the game. Trey played the last 15:30 mins of the game without a sub.
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That's right - I've seen Dante have a few 2 minute shifts were he was hauled right back to the bench for something that QS didn't like.
 
Trey has also started the last 2 third quarters. Dante played only 12 minutes against MIL.

Q is getting sick of Dante's lack of aggression me thinks.
 
Well all reports indicate he has a sever work ethic. If that is the case I expect him to dramatically improve in year 2.
 
green said:
How big has/will being the starter help Exum. He isn't some overhyped weakling that spent half the year in the DLeague. He is the STARTING PG on a very hot team right now. If we finish the year 18-10, that's a .643 winning percentage, or 53 wins next year.

How does that help you get motivated, knowing you are the starting PG for a very, very good team? That has to help give you confidence while working to get bigger, stronger, faster. Once Exum decides to take it to the rim, watch out. Gobert and Exum P&R could be nasty. Alley oops all over the place. Unstoppable. With Gordan and Snell/Hood/Matthews/Burks on the wings? Our offense goes from horrible to incredible very quickly.

I think Exum starting this year will pay off big time this summer.
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I agree. By all accounts starting and getting substantial mins should help Exum. I'm of the opinion that if being thrown to the fire kills a guys confidence he's not that special anyways. One thing I remember being discussed was how Exum's "competitive spirit" tested off the charts.

As I said earlier it way too early to judge the guy, but I think you can start to get a feel for him. Some guys stats stink because they are inconsistent, and some so the athletic ability and flashes of skill,but their games aren't quite there yet. With Exum he not overly skilled, not explosive at the rim, all while being very passive. Not sure what this is going to yield, however I'm not expecting much.
 
He was supposed to struggle offensively this year. I expect him to make a Gobertesque jump next year following a strong offseason.

The Jazz are playing 4vs5 on offense but winnning games. He's an impressive defender already, should be a great one next year. He's a project not a bust.
 
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