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Jefferson makes "Top Underachievers" list at ESPN

Marty McFly said:
LOL, Jefferson is a better player than Millsap. His numbers are almost a wash and he's only been here 1/2 of a season compared to 4.5 for Sap. Big Al can only get better on this team. Millsap is what he is.
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Big Al is a better NBA play but no where near Millsap's value to this team. AJ has had 1/2 a season to figure out this offense. It took Millsap one pre-season 4.5 yrs ago. Face it, this is the wrong kind of O for AJ. He's doesn't get it now and probably won't the rest of this year. That's a lot of money going to a guy that bottlenecks your O.

I will say that his D seems better than what we had last year. But that isn't saying much unfortunately.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Only if you allow the Pacers to re-sign Reggie Miller to a deal to match salaries where the Jazz would be able to buyout Miller for practically nothing.
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I'm in. I'd pay good money to see Reggie break his frail body on a Jazz court, even in a home jersey.
 
VINYLONE said:
"Woefully out of place..." Does that mean positioning?
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I think so. I think he would do better as a PF alongside a real center. I would like to see what a consistent diet of Memo and AJ could do, even for short stretches due to Memo's injury. With Memo and D Will running the pick and pop it would pull defenders from under the basket. I think AJ's reb numbers and open looks in the post would go up.

And he has been here all of 3/5 of a season. He may yet adapt. I am not ready to call him a bust yet. He has room to improve clearly. I give him at least a year and another training camp to get there. If he is still a drag on us early next year we should be thinking about the trade deadline at that point.
 
But I thought Deron was going to make him an allstar?
 
Marty McFly said:
LOL, Jefferson is a better player than Millsap. His numbers are almost a wash and he's only been here 1/2 of a season compared to 4.5 for Sap. Big Al can only get better on this team. Millsap is what he is.
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So Jefferson doesn't suck because Millsap is suckier?

If you're going to make a case for Jefferson you're going to have to do it without bringing up Millsap.
 
The Thriller said:
So Jefferson doesn't suck because Millsap is suckier?

If you're going to make a case for Jefferson you're going to have to do it without bringing up Millsap.
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What the hell are you talking about? I was replying to somebody who said Millsap is a better player than Jefferson (not talking salaries here). That is horse****.
 
Still waiting for people to explain why Jefferson hasn't sucked and why I should be excited about him being on our team.

Waiting and waiting for the Al Jefferson homers...
 
Jefferson isn't BAD. He's never been in an offense that's structured like this. He's not an unstoppable post player (how many guys in the league are?) but the things he brings on the defensive end in comparison to Boozer make that trade-off about a wash.

The problems lately haven't been pinned on Jefferson as much as anybody else on the team. They're just not running the offense and not defending. Hard to place so much blame on one guy when the whole team has been half-assing it the past month or so.
 
Marty McFly said:
What the hell are you talking about? I was replying to somebody who said Millsap is a better player than Jefferson (not talking salaries here). That is horse****.
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I for one, am more making the argument that at best they're the same; that Jefferson's not better (even if he's not worse necessarily). We'll go from there. Your argument is that Jefferson is better and you haven't used a shred of evidence to support that claim. It's weird to me.
 
Jazz4ever said:
I think Al could be better than Millsap......as a power forward. As a center he is grotesque.
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people don't realize this but al actually has been outscoring, higher efg%, higher PER, is blocking at the same as and commits less turnovers and fouls than his opponent at center. the only thing that he is getting "grotesquely" beat at is rebounding, which he gets beat at the same rate for both positions. so, by the numbers this season, he has performed both better individually and compared to his opponent as a center.

https://www.82games.com/1011/10UTA11.HTM
 
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