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Trading Down in the Draft

If we can't move up and acquire another pick after the draft we can use that pick to potentially acquire a veteran.

Once FA happens and teams start showing their hands (does Toronto rebuild? what is Denver doing? Did Indiana draft the PGOTF? etc.) a Holiday, Lowry, or Hill might be available at a small discount. We could move the 2016 pick and potentially another pick to get the guy we may have considered moving the 12th pick for. Or we can sit on the pick until trade deadline when teams move a different direction... at that point we'd have a better idea of where Dante and Burke are at development wise.

It's not my first option but it's not a bad option to consider.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
So Miami is in trouble... They are in luxury tax hell this year if Wade and Deng opt in as they are repeaters. They also have an interesting conundrum next year if they have to extend Wade. they will want max space, but for CBA reasons will need to conserve some cap space to resign Whiteside.

If they were able to dump McBob for unguaranteed contracts they could save around $20 M dollars this year (per nate duncan on his podcast yesterday) they'd also open up $6 M or so in space next year. McBob is a useful player and brings a lot of what our front court lacks.

I think we could add our 3rd big and move up two spots which increases our chances of catching the player who falls out of that top 9 (if one does)... i think they'd have to do it with the amount of money they can save and the options it opens up for them next year. Both teams would probably want to wait to see how the draft falls into place, but I think that is our most logical way to move up... I'd only do it if one of the consensus top 9 guys was available. It would likely be SJ imo.
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Why would they need non-guaranteed contracts back? The Jazz could easily fit that contract under the cap. I'd happily send them the rights to Pliess (Miami takes back no salary) or a future 2nd round pick to swap 1st round picks. Given his knee issues, I'd also try to flip him for a future pick. Miami takes back no salary AND saves money from dropping from 10 to 12. I could go for that. They basically get 2nd round value for clearing cap space without really losing much of anything in the process.
 
Ellis269 said:
Why would they need non-guaranteed contracts back? The Jazz could easily fit that contract under the cap. I'd happily send them the rights to Pliess (Miami takes back no salary) or a future 2nd round pick to swap 1st round picks. Given his knee issues, I'd also try to flip him for a future pick. Miami takes back no salary AND saves money from dropping from 10 to 12. I could go for that. They basically get 2nd round value for clearing cap space without really losing much of anything in the process.
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I'm talking on draft day... we don't have cap space until free agency opens a week after the draft. I don't think McBob has a history of knee injuries, but I'm not sure.

There are other ways to help them get salary relief by taking on Anderson or Chalmers, but McBob is signed for a few more years.
 
In the event we trade down it would also benefit us to have one of the picks we receive to be for next year's draft or further down the line. Our roster is almost full - we probably have 2-3 available roster spots.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
So Miami is in trouble... They are in luxury tax hell this year if Wade and Deng opt in as they are repeaters. They also have an interesting conundrum next year if they have to extend Wade. they will want max space, but for CBA reasons will need to conserve some cap space to resign Whiteside.

If they were able to dump McBob for unguaranteed contracts they could save around $20 M dollars this year (per nate duncan on his podcast yesterday) they'd also open up $6 M or so in space next year. McBob is a useful player and brings a lot of what our front court lacks.

I think we could add our 3rd big and move up two spots which increases our chances of catching the player who falls out of that top 9 (if one does)... i think they'd have to do it with the amount of money they can save and the options it opens up for them next year. Both teams would probably want to wait to see how the draft falls into place, but I think that is our most logical way to move up... I'd only do it if one of the consensus top 9 guys was available. It would likely be SJ imo.
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#10 + McRoberts for #12 is easily something I would do. McRoberts can stretch the floor as a power forward and we move up two spots in the draft. It's a win-win.
 
Ellis269 said:
Even if you have to give up a future 2nd, this is a deal worth making.
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Without a doubt, get it done DL. It makes sense for the Heat as well, getting rid of salary while only moving down two spots plus possibly getting a second rounder.
 
It's not top 8, but it guarantees that the Jazz get one of Towns, Russell, Okafor, Mudiay, Winslow, Hezonja, Porzingis, Johnson, Turner or Kaminsky. Plus it positions Utah to more easily move up inside the top 10 after the fact if their target gets picked ahead of them.
 
White Chocolate said:
#10 + McRoberts for #12 is easily something I would do. McRoberts can stretch the floor as a power forward and we move up two spots in the draft. It's a win-win.
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Probably the best idea floated so far and it's a good/fair deal for both teams. Make this trade for #10 and who knows, maybe a future first then gets them from #10 to #7 or #8 if they want to trade up again.
 
McRoberts salary doesn't seem to be too out of line. Here is his salary over the next three seasons, the last year being a players option year. About a million more per year more than Trevor Booker. I am curious what is going to happen to Trevor. He is a team option for next year and is a prime candidate for a trade scenario. I sure like him on our squad. I love his attitude and he seems to really like it here. He is a fan favorite. I would like him to be around next year unless he is key in a package to do something special in a trade.

Josh McRoberts: $5,543,725 $5,782,450 $6,021,175

https://hoopshype.com/salaries/miami.htm
 
I didn't realize that McRoberts was such a good passer. Seems to fit in well with what Snyder likes to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNubLMoov8M
 
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