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Dumb pig cops getting smarter?

NAOS said:
notice that there was an attempt at a dialogue.
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Therein lies the problem. If you read that entire exchange (including the later parts you left out) and don't notice the contrast in tone between your posts and JEJ's, there's simply something psychologically wrong with you.

NAOS said:
you guys know all about me though, right? So, the prickishness is accurate, right?
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You is referring to your account on Jazzfanz, obviously. The conduct of you on jazzfanz is prickish, and a view shared by many. Thus, I consider it accurate.
 
JEJ tried to force his terms of the debate. It's a subtle thing, dude. I don't play that style. Sorry you get so offended? If JEJ is truly hurt by our little back and forth, then I'd quickly apologize. I doubt he is, though. Nobody puts their feelings on the line around here more than you, sweetie.
 
thanks for telling me what the problem is, though.

I love that Dal comes to the rescue in the thread about policing. He's easily the best police JFC has ever had.
 
dalamon said:
Never seen the film, so I can't comment on the reference. Doesn't really absolve a string of bizarrely-miliant posts, but that's just my $0.02.
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First of all it's a movie not a film.(not nearly pretentious enough to be a film) Second, you should watch it.

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DutchJazzer said:
what if i told u that thats the way to aprehend an officer. it is part of their takedown training to handcuff a suspect.

dont know about america. but i can tell you that in Israel, Germany and Netherlands that's the training to apprehend when cuffing. seeing as i have no experience with law enforcement training from the us. but there are also standing arm locks etc etc.
so if the kneeing part is the problem than i don't think the cop should be penalized for that. because it is in his training. if you don't agree with that part their needs to be a reform in training methods. he should not be punished for that.

he should be punished for pulling his gun. but he might have feared for his safety as people swarmed him which might have activated his instinct to protect his safety and live. which is wrong as these kids where unarmed. but taking his badge and gun and his job his harsh for a temoporary lapse in judgement/ acting on instinct.


i know law enforcement training so i do know that is a standard technique amongst others. how can you punish him for preforming the technique(albeit a bit sloppy and not 100% perfect)


again thats the problem witht his world everybody has an opinion even when they are not well versed on the subject. and i might be considered a troll, an instigate or someone who sometimes just says **** just to offend the pc crowd. but in this case i am serious and do have the know how and experience about this part of law enforcement training.

during training i have been on both sides of that position and i am stil healthy. but maybe i am just fit and in better condition. all kind of people put me in that position. with all kind of intensity.
i do know it is unpleasant. but it is a way of controlling suspects.
you dont know wtf you are talking about when it comes to this.


edit ofcourse if this technique isnt trained in us law enforcement which i doubt. then my argument falls apart :P
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Can you honestly watch that video and think it made sense to tackle that girl in the first place, or to kneel on her once he did. Something snapped in that officer's head. He was screaming and running around like a lunatic. If he had behaved like the blonde cop was toward the beginning of the video there is a good chance they would have resolved this situation peacefully and a very good chance that videos of it would not have gone viral. He absolutely did not need to kneel on that girl and I find it amazing that any adult would defend him for it. I have three daughters. If any man ever treats any of them this way he will face serious consequences.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Can you honestly watch that video and think it made sense to tackle that girl in the first place, or to kneel on her once he did. Something snapped in that officer's head. He was screaming and running around like a lunatic. If he had behaved like the blonde cop was toward the beginning of the video there is a good chance they would have resolved this situation peacefully and a very good chance that videos of it would not have gone viral. He absolutely did not need to kneel on that girl and I find it amazing that any adult would defend him for it. I have three daughters. If any man ever treats any of them this way he will face serious consequences.
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ok
you're right i am dumb.

i assumed those guys where acting juvenile and criminal. but cops turned out of nowhere and screwed with the good times those law abiding teenagers where having.
never mind i just thought they where defiant and when defiant you get arrested.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s3UUCXoajw

TEXAS FOR THE WIN!
 
DutchJazzer said:
ok
you're right i am dumb.

i assumed those guys where acting juvenile and criminal. but cops turned out of nowhere and screwed with the good times those law abiding teenagers where having.
never mind i just thought they where defiant and when defiant you get arrested.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s3UUCXoajw

TEXAS FOR THE WIN!
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So you think that once someone breaks the law, the police should be able to act in any way they want? If that girl was breaking a law (I'm not sure she was) the cop still didn't need to toss her around like a rag doll.
Cop probably should have just shot her right? Cause she was a criminal
 
fishonjazz said:
So you think that once someone breaks the law, the police should be able to act in any way they want? If that girl was breaking a law (I'm not sure she was) the cop still didn't need to toss her around like a rag doll.
Cop probably should have just shot her right? Cause she was a criminal
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i think that if you break the law you should be apprehended. now if the girl was or was not breaking the law is irrelevant.
the officer decided to arrest her. he had sloppy takedown technique it happens. but the technique he was trying to pull of is trained to LAw enforcemnt officers around the the world(don't know about texas, but i assume it does)

at that moment she is resisting arrest which is a crime in itself. now other teenagers want to try and help the girl right? that in itself is also a crime forgot the English term for it. but the officer is getting swarmed by depending on how u count 8 other teenagers during an arrest. which you may or may not fear for your live. they are trying to stop him from doing his work. in this case arresting a girl(innocent or not). he pulls the gun they back off. he then proceeds to arrest her according to training but just sloppy technique.
whether she is a criminal or not is for the judge and jury to decide.
not for us and or that cop.

so cops should only arrest people who have been proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be criminal?

go watch some Texas biker war vids. those guys weren't resiting arrest. they where also shoved in the ground. they werent stupid enough to prevent cops from arresting their patrons. and yes some of those are criminals. but even they know to not resist arrest or impede an officer from arresting a friend.


but your right those kids arent biker criminals. they shouldn't be arrested.
if your innocent and a cop arrest you go ahead fight him. resist him tell your friends to help you out.
thats the way the world works right? only 100% proven criminals should be apprehended.

this is just liberal ********


but how do you want cops to put people in handcufs then
politly ask them to? and hand them the cufs?

yeah right


armchair quaterbacking
 
all these people who think this is police brutality how do you want cops to handle it?

come there? get out table and chairs ask people to leave or pick out handcuffs and handcuff themselves? and gently get in the bus?
 
DutchJazzer said:
all these people who think this is police brutality how do you want cops to handle it?

come there? get out table and chairs ask people to leave or pick out handcuffs and handcuff themselves? and gently get in the bus?
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My neg reps hit harder than yours.

Nanananana!!
 
Someone had asked for context regarding this incident:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ym0KcWv8RI

a video has emerged showing the violent pandemonium that resulted in the police being called to the scene in the first place.

According to Breitbart, residents in a McKinney subdivision were hosting an end-of-school party in their private community pool when many teens who were not residents of the subdivision began showing up. Some had been invited by residents, some had not. An ad for the event had been placed on social media sites.

According to reports from residents of the area, teens began jumping the fence to get in and trouble erupted when they were asked to leave by pool management.

Police arrived at the scene when called, and asked the uninvited teens to sit down. Instead, the teens began fleeing and the police had to chase them down. This is when a video of the incident with police began, sparking wild outrage amongst leftists who promptly declared the incident was prompted by racial bias.

But one resident, Benet Embry, stated on Facebook:

“Look, I LIVE in this community and this ENTIRE incident is NOT racial at all. A few THUGS spoiled a COMMUNITY event by fighting, jumping over fences into a PRIVATE pool, harassing and damaging property. Not EVERYTHING is about RACE. WE have other issues that NEED our attention other flights of made up make believe causes.”

In another post he excoriated the media coverage of the incident. “I’ve never seen such irresponsible reporting and miss management of media resources in my life,” he said.

Another resident posted in Facebook:

“This was a Twitter party that turned into a mob event. Jumping pool fence. Assaulting 2 security guards, attacking a mother with three little girls. The video doesn’t show everything.” He continued saying the kids were drinking and “smoking weed” and they would not listen to any of the adults around the pool.

“This isn’t about race. This is about outside kids invading our neighborhood and had no respect for authority or the residents here. I have a target on my back now and I have been threatened by these punks that they are gonna shoot up my house when all I did was try to control the mob and actually tended to the girl and the boy that had a bloody lip.”

“Y’all don’t know the whole story. I commend the officer for handling this situation.”

After the incident, the trespassing teens came back into the neighborhood, where they allegedly kicked in people’s doors, stole a truck, and crashed it into many vehicles. They also vandalized dozens of cars and and stole things.

This is precisely the kind of violent behavior which is engendered when people grow up with no boundaries, believing endless liberal propaganda that they are entitled victims of a society which has done them wrong. Hopefully, the real aggrieved citizens who must live surrounded by this behavior will come to the realization that they need to change the dialogue in order to stamp out the growing cancer of violence in their midst.
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