Kristaps Porzingis

[Doublea]

Well, the future of the Jazz still depends on Gobert and Exum both reaching close to their potential over the next couple years. We're still in a rebuild as it is. We have turned the corner so-to-speak if the goal is getting to the #5 or #6 seed in the west, but if the goal is a little higher, I could see the Jazz take one more swing for the fence.

Exum, Hood, Hayward, Porzingis and Gobert is a pretty nice unit, with Hayward being the veteran leader of sorts.

Then we have no bench. Can Porzingis and Gobert play next to each other? Favors is only going to improve too.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I will say this: Keeping Favors and drafting Turner is safer and probably more sensible than trading Favors and drafting Porzingis.

I like Porzingis as much as the next guy, but he's not KG and he's not KD. He doesn't have that kind of handle, body control or fast-twitch athleticism. The empty-gym workout format is making him look formidable, but he has to get a lot stronger and he has to be crafty if he's going to score on Gobert or Favors. A more reasonable expectation for him is Mirotic or Kukoc, imo, though he's a bit bigger.

 

[gregbroncs]

New York would probably do it for Favors. Not sure what the Jazz would say. It could go either way.

If the Jazz didn't hang up laughing then they are morans.

 

[Hotdog]

If we traded up to 4, I'm not targeting Kristaps Porzingis. Dudes got Bust potential written all over him.

 

[Elizah Huge]

If we traded up to 4, I'm not targeting Kristaps Porzingis. Dudes got Bust potential written all over him.

While I disagree about Porzingis, I agree that if we traded up I wouldn't target him at 4. I would go after Russell (which if he is there, the Knicks aren't trading the pick).

 

[Hotdog]

While I disagree about Porzingis, I agree that if we traded up I wouldn't target him at 4. I would go after Russell (which if he is there, the Knicks aren't trading the pick).

I will be stunned, and will laugh if Russell goes after Kristaps. Okafor shouldn't even go before Russell.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I will be stunned, and will laugh if Russell goes after Kristaps. Okafor shouldn't even go before Russell.

I agree lol, but despite all the hype about Porzingis, I think Philadelphia takes Russell at 3.

But if Russell goes 2 I could see them taking Porzingis and Okafor falling to New York at 4.

 

[Hotdog]

I agree lol, but despite all the hype about Porzingis, I think Philadelphia takes Russell at 3.

But if Russell goes 2 I could see them taking Porzingis and Okafor falling to New York at 4.

I can see Kristaps going before Okafor, but I don't think either are in the top5. I think Mudiay, Mario, Johnson, and Winslow should go before them

 

[karl malone]

Porzingis would make a great 3rd big alongside Favors & Gobert, but I don't think it would be worth giving up all of the assets that it would likely require to move up for someone who would be coming off of the bench & is far from a sure thing. Worst case scenario, he looks like Bargnani with hustle/effort, which isn't a bad player, but not somebody worth overpaying for. He definitely has some Dirk potential in him, which is the reason he is one of the prospects in this draft that I would make a minor trade to move up for (such as #12/Burke/OKC 1st/GSW 1st), but considering all of the recent hype surrounding him, it looks highly unlikely that he falls far enough for us to trade up for him.

As for whoever suggested that DEN may trade up for #4, I've been thinking this as well & wondering if we could possibly get involved by absorbing Calderon's contract & including assets to move up to #7 in order to target Hezonja (although I still believe we would have to trade a wing or play Burks at PG if we were to acquire him). Considering who NYK have been working out, they appear open to moving down to #12(ish) so it could be a possibility.

 

[AlaskanAssassin]

Meh. Most guys drafted in the top 5 don't want to be coming off the bench for the foreseeable future. Is Porzingis willing to come off the bench behind Rudy and Favors? We have great chemistry right now and we don't want to add a player that might be disappointed in their situation.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm all in on Porz... Really like that guy. If he falls to #4 I think there is a real chance we could get him. We have a unique blend of stuff we can provide to NY to get the deal done.

They are looking at guys in our range... Payne, Frank, Lyles, and maybe a very outside shot at WCS. If we did a 3-way trade that went as follows I think it would be a fair offer for them:

Utah out: #12, Booker, Our 2016 pick top 3 protected, 2017 GSW pick and Trey Burke (if they want him)
Utah In: Porz and Calderon

NY out: #4 (porz) and Calderon
NY In: Taj Gibson, #12, and the 2017 GSW pick

Chicago Out: Gibson
Chicago In: Booker and Utah 2016 pick next year

Burke goes to whoever fills they need filler or we keep him if there is no interest by either team.

Chicago needs to cut a little salary and has a log jam at 4... NY gets a good defensive front court player a guy they like later and future draft asset... We get a guy who has potential to be a star and who adds a diverse skillset and a vet point guard who can shoot (he is overpaid, but I think I'd rather have him than Burke).

We aren't going to get an established star by aggregating our assets... those deals don't come up often and we don't fit the profile of a team that a star will resign with. If we get a star it likely comes from a top 5 draft pick... this gives us a chance.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Meh. Most guys drafted in the top 5 don't want to be coming off the bench for the foreseeable future. Is Porzingis willing to come off the bench behind Rudy and Favors? We have great chemistry right now and we don't want to add a player that might be disappointed in their situation.

If he's getting 20+ minutes a night it doesn't really matter as a rookie... he'll be fine. If he deserves to be a starter we have a great problem.