As of today, is it fair to doubt the organization's commitment to the playoffs next year?

[Mission Accomplished]

With hindsight we were all wrong about Hayward's extension (this coming from the guy who was blasted days before his contract as a troll for pushing for Hayward at way more than just about anyone wanted). The Jazz had the benefit of foresight on the TV contract that we did not. Hayward's agent had the benefit of shopping for a max deal from multiple teams for 9 full months. The industry knew Hayward was a max deal, Haywards agent knew he would be maxed, Hayward knew he could go easy in a tank year and still get max coin.

The only people who didn't know was us. DL didn't gamble with that contract. $90 mil cap next year puts Hayward at about $11mm under the old scenario, which was pretty much the consensus that we all wanted him sign for. There was no gamble whatsoever.

If we didnt have hayward today with all the cap space couldnt you see us chasing a better player? Or drafting Kelly Oubre to back up Hood.

 

[Mission Accomplished]

He left of Hood (from trades)
trading up for Gobert
Jury is CLEARLY out on Exum
Hayward and Burks contracts

All gambles IMO.

So stop pretending you represent truth KOC Begone.

Numb perhaps but certainly not you.

So, leaving off Hood from trades is now a positive because we dont know what he is offering.
He didnt trade up for Gobert he bought a pick. He has now done that once perfectly. That doesnt erase blunders especially how he handled Kanter should be a huge blunder. I dont care if he didn't fit you move him for real assets. Thunder had players like Marrow and Jones on that team that we could have used over dleaguers.

 

[Stoked]

So, leaving off Hood from trades is now a positive because we dont know what he is offering.
He didnt trade up for Gobert he bought a pick. He has now done that once perfectly. That doesnt erase blunders especially how he handled Kanter should be a huge blunder. I dont care if he didn't fit you move him for real assets. Thunder had players like Marrow and Jones on that team that we could have used over dleaguers.

That's just it, all your "blunders" are not blunders. It's just not what you would do. But guess what? It's working. The Jazz are defensively elite, young, hungry, talented and deep. The FO has loaded the staff and brought the Jazz into the present. Despite how horrible you act they are DL and Snyder have this team humming and ready for a big year.

You just can't stand it.

 

[Mission Accomplished]

Nope I'm fine the only thing we have that is elite is Gobery. You might not be able to admit that. I'm a huge fan of the Jazz. Just feel that they settle on nonstars trying to boost them. Heck even during the Boozer days we would have been better off with AK at the five. But, time will tell if Hayward is overrated. I can guaguaranguarantee that most GM would have gotten more for Kanter. Plus, we keep collecting picks and we dont do anything with them. Im not talking about movinOubre has the ceiling of a allstar and Lyles a ceiling as a starter.

 

[franklin]

Lmao. Not a gamble to ask the Millers for millions to buy a late first-rounder? Hilarious case of 20/20 hindsight. Both this and the GS trade were grand-slams.


Step away from the ledge, bro.

It's millions numberica. MILLIONS! BUT IT'S MILLIONZ!!!!! That's like big numbers and stuff, man!!!

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Lmao. Not a gamble to ask the Millers for millions to buy a late first-rounder? Hilarious case of 20/20 hindsight. Both this and the GS trade were grand-slams.


Step away from the ledge, bro.

Not a gamble. Buying a first round pick for a few million is nothing. The Jazz have been spending well under the cap for a minute.

 

[Stoked]

Nope I'm fine the only thing we have that is elite is Gobery. You might not be able to admit that. I'm a huge fan of the Jazz. Just feel that they settle on nonstars trying to boost them. Heck even during the Boozer days we would have been better off with AK at the five. But, time will tell if Hayward is overrated. I can guaguaranguarantee that most GM would have gotten more for Kanter. Plus, we keep collecting picks and we dont do anything with them. Im not talking about movinOubre has the ceiling of a allstar and Lyles a ceiling as a starter.

Once again it's your arm chair GMing that makes you so bitter.

You just know Oubre is better

You just know Hayward is a scrub.

You just know what most "good" GMs would be able to get.

You don't know a thing about any of that. Your opinion is not truth.

I'll trust in the professionals that are building this great team right before our eyes. Just like you will watch it. The difference is that I will enjoy it.

 

[Siro]

Once again it's your arm chair GMing that makes you so bitter.

You just know Oubre is better

You just know Hayward is a scrub.

You just know what most "good" GMs would be able to get.

You don't know a thing about any of that. Your opinion is not truth.

I'll trust in the professionals that are building this great team right before our eyes. Just like you will watch it. The difference is that I will enjoy it.

Cy's posts are armchair GMing. That idiot Mission Accomplished dropping a deuce each time he touches a keyboard doesn't even deserve to be called that.

 

[Stoked]

Cy's posts are armchair GMing. That idiot Mission Accomplished dropping a deuce each time he touches a keyboard doesn't even deserve to be called that.

I'm open to suggestions.

Armchair bitching?

 

[Mission Accomplished]

Once again it's your arm chair GMing that makes you so bitter.

You just know Oubre is better

You just know Hayward is a scrub.

You just know what most "good" GMs would be able to get.

You don't know a thing about any of that. Your opinion is not truth.

I'll trust in the professionals that are building this great team right before our eyes. Just like you will watch it. The difference is that I will enjoy it.

Washington just got Jared Dudley for a second rounder there are players out there we could use. It takes a GM that wants to push into good deals. These other teams arent lucky.

What happens if Oubre is better in three years no one will admit it.

Hayward isnt a scrub but he sure isnt a center piece. I say keep him just lets not pretend that he is amazing. Our only amazing player is Gobert. Then our player with the second most promise is Exum. Next for the money it has to be Favors and Burks because of the deals we go with them. Next is Hayward but I believe Hood is a SF and he has a pretty solid all around game. After that we have decent role players. So, why not gamble in the draft?

 

[NAOS]

Tell me how u really feel, bruagh.

I think I'm being pretty clear, hun.

 

[LogGrad98]

Washington just got Jared Dudley for a second rounder there are players out there we could use. It takes a GM that wants to push into good deals. These other teams arent lucky.

What happens if Oubre is better in three years no one will admit it.

Hayward isnt a scrub but he sure isnt a center piece. I say keep him just lets not pretend that he is amazing. Our only amazing player is Gobert. Then our player with the second most promise is Exum. Next for the money it has to be Favors and Burks because of the deals we go with them. Next is Hayward but I believe Hood is a SF and he has a pretty solid all around game. After that we have decent role players. So, why not gamble in the draft?

What happens if Oubre isn't better? Will you admit it?