Trey Lyles' Weaknesses

[Getting Traded]

I like how he handles himself on offense, but what he needs to work on is defense and more aggressive rebounding.

He is very slow to protect the rim and he doesn't seem to put enough effort into going after rebounds, like Cooley for instance. He needs to work on that, a lot. I see a lot of players on the opposing teams just going up on the offensive boards for put backs with little or no resistance from Lyles. He also needs to work on his lateral movement on defense. Players are blowing by him easily, even bigs.

 

[homeytennis]

I like how he handles himself on offense, but what he needs to work on is defense and more aggressive rebounding.

He is very slow to protect the rim and he doesn't seem to put enough effort into going after rebounds, like Cooley for instance. He needs to work on that, a lot. I see a lot of players on the opposing teams just going up on the offensive boards for put backs with little or no resistance from Lyles. He also needs to work on his lateral movement on defense. Players are blowing by him easily, even bigs.

I'm not sure he is in true basketball shape yet.

 

[Avery]

This is where the benefit of being 19 years old comes into play. Quin and Co. will work on these fundamentals hard with him over the next few years so he can use his length and relative athleticism wisely.

The pick was as good as a pick as we could have possibly made at that point in the draft; if Lyles can be a solid player off the bench for us or a guy that can start in limited minutes for injury, DL will have done his job.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

In regard to his rebounding, I'm encouraged by this:

Game 1 - 1 reb
Game 2 - 4 rebs
Game 3 - 9 rebs

 

[JazzyFresh]

He needs to get stronger no doubt
His defense has been hit or miss. He's in good position a lot of the time but when it comes to defending he seems hesitant.
He seem to have no blocking ability or awareness. If you were to put Rudys mind in Treys body I feel he would have 4-5 blocks by now.
His shot is inconsistent, but when he shoots with confidence it's pretty nice actually.


All in all though these are pretty good problems for a player of 19 years to have. I really like the kid thus far.

 

[Miggs]

In regard to his rebounding, I'm encouraged by this:

Game 1 - 1 reb
Game 2 - 4 rebs
Game 3 - 9 rebs

Agreed. I think his game-shape will improve dramatically ala Exum last year and at 19, his body has a ton of room fill out. His 5.2 rebounds per 23.0 minutes played at Kentucky while unimpressive is at least solid as well considering he shared the court with so many other studs so I have hope he can rebound at at least an average rate.

 

[framer]

He kind of acts like a big that was forced to play on the wing but is now being told to play like a big again. He has some pretty quick hands on defense which will help him in or outside of the post.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Agreed. I think his game-shape will improve dramatically ala Exum last year and at 19, his body has a ton of room fill out. His 5.2 rebounds per 23.0 minutes played at Kentucky while unimpressive is at least solid as well considering he shared the court with so many other studs so I have hope he can rebound at at least an average rate.

5.2 rebounds a game in 23 min playing next to KAT and WCS at sf is actually pretty impressive.

 

[Elizah Huge]

He is getting more comfortable with every game that goes by.

 

[fishonjazz]

Imo his weaknesses are staying in front of his man when they attack (saw Payne blow by him multiple times last night for instance), shot blocking (not a huge concern imo), and his shooting percentage away from the hoop.

 

[homeytennis]

In Vegas he and Brock Motum are averaging the same ppg, and Lyles is averaging 1 more rebound per game despite playing about 6 minutes per game longer. Motum is shooting considerably better and everyone has him as a no-hoper on making team in the fall.

 

[framer]

In Vegas he and Brock Motum are averaging the same ppg, and Lyles is averaging 1 more rebound per game despite playing about 6 minutes per game longer. Motum is shooting considerably better and everyone has him as a no-hoper on making team in the fall.

If in 5 years Lyles is still averaging Brock Motum numbers (Motum is 24), I'll go ahead and agree with you that he is a bust. Otherwise you don't have a damn point.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

In Vegas he and Brock Motum are averaging the same ppg, and Lyles is averaging 1 more rebound per game despite playing about 6 minutes per game longer. Motum is shooting considerably better and everyone has him as a no-hoper on making team in the fall.

Weird post.

Besides the age difference, which is huge, Lyles hasn't even been with the team for a week. Motum has been here the entire time and was here last summer and training camp too (?).

 

[homeytennis]

My point is that he was a ways to go and will. He's only 19 and if fans think he is the savior this year take a deep breath.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Lyles needs to get stronger (not much bigger though... want to stay fast). He needs to get more arch on his shot... He has rattled a bunch out and a few more degrees of arc will change that. His rebounding is okay but I think he's had a little trouble because of the strength issue.

His defensive effort is poor... pretty similar to Hood last summer league. He will get it as he works into shape. Nothing he can't fix... have just seen him opt not to challenge shots and stick to his guy.

I have really liked what I've seen... he needs to be on the floor with either Favs or Gobert at all times imo... he can rely on their rim protection and rebounding. He moves so well and controlled (similar to how Hood moves... not super fast but really deceptive.) His passing and reading the defense is reallllllly good and much of what he is doing will translate. Imagine the big to big PnR with Favs or Gobert instead of Cooley. His first step is great and I don't feel like he is forcing anything. If he was hitting a few more of his free throws and a couple more of his 20 footers we'd all be salivating.... it will come.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Motum suxxxx.... #analysis

 

[seattlejazzfan]

My point is that he was a ways to go and will. He's only 19 and if fans think he is the savior this year take a deep breath.

Pretty sure everybody realizes he has a ways to go and nobody thinks he is the savior. That's why your post was kinda weird. But hey, no harm no foul, we've all had our share.

 

[fishonjazz]

if fans think he is the savior this year

They don't

 

[Dr. Jones]

Something I haven't seen mentioned and what I witnessed with him at UK is too much floating on the perimeter. When he had his best games at UK, he ran without the ball (think Redick) on offense and was dialed in on D.
He just floated like a spot up 3pt shooter WAY too often. He excelled when working to get himself open and especially from the baseline.
Quin will fix this.

 

[Revolution 9]

My point is that he was a ways to go and will. He's only 19 and if fans think he is the savior this year take a deep breath.

Thankfully I dont think many see him as that. He is bench fodder until he increases his strength, and skill.