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a really good regular season from him as a back-up, but he didn't end the season in the playoffs in the best of notes (Burke-esqque percentages, maybe even worse). Not saying it means anything in terms of his career, but it's worth pointing out (Hayward had a similar campaign against the Spurs).

With that said, Schröder fit-wise could not have been drafted to a better team in this league.

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There aren't many players in the NBA that I'd rather build a team around for the next 5-10 years than Gobert due to his defensive ability & work ethic. While Gobert & Favors may not be completely compatible due to shooting range/offensive limitations, the defense provided by them more than makes up for that. As long as they are provided enough offense/shooting from the other positions in the starting lineup/rotation, Favors & Gobert (+ Lyles/Pleiss) is already a championship caliber frontcourt that also has the chance to be not just one of the best frontcourts in the league, but possibly one of the best frontcourts (at least defensively) of all-time.
 
Since Schröder was brought up, here were his per 36 stats last year. Yes, I know most of his time is played against back-ups. In his defense, he did start 10 games too and when he didn't, he played with back-ups.

18.2 ppg, 42.7 FG%, 35.1 3pt%, 82.7 FT%, 51.6 TS%, 7.5 assists, 3.9 rebounds, 1.2 steals.

This kid is barely 21 and has adapted really quickly to the NBA game. He could be a scary two-way player.
 
There aren't many players in the NBA that I'd rather build a team around for the next 5-10 years than Gobert due to his defensive ability & work ethic. While Gobert & Favors may not be completely compatible due to shooting range/offensive limitations, the defense provided by them more than makes up for that. As long as they are provided enough offense/shooting from the other positions in the starting lineup/rotation, Favors & Gobert (+ Lyles/Pleiss) is already a championship caliber frontcourt that also has the chance to be not just one of the best frontcourts in the league, but possibly one of the best frontcourts (at least defensively) of all-time.
 
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I think people are going to be as excitedly surprised by the Jazz this year as they were the 2nd half of last season.

Gobert, Exum, Hood and Burks have something to prove. All 4 will see dramatic improvement.
 
I think people are going to be as excitedly surprised by the Jazz this year as they were the 2nd half of last season.

Gobert, Exum, Hood and Burks have something to prove. All 4 will see dramatic improvement.

I hope we are not surprised.
The end of the year was such a strong finish that we fans totally drank the Kool-Aid. I am afraid that our expectations are very high and that the only way we will be truly surprised is if the season starts poorly. Hopefully we haven't bought in to the hype so much we are all disappointed with a modest step forward.
 
I hope we are not surprised.
The end of the year was such a strong finish that we fans totally drank the Kool-Aid. I am afraid that our expectations are very high and that the only way we will be truly surprised is if the season starts poorly. Hopefully we haven't bought in to the hype so much we are all disappointed with a modest step forward.
I will be ok with .500 ball for the season (41 wins).
But I definitely have much higher expectations. (I think they should win between 46 and 50 games)

Less than 41 wins and I'm sad
 
I will be ok with .500 ball for the season (41 wins).
But I definitely have much higher expectations. (I think they should win between 46 and 50 games)

Less than 41 wins and I'm sad

Last year we had 38 wins and that's with a brutal start and first half thanks to many things like youth, a new coach and system, injuries and Kanter. That is also despite the fact that we lost a game or two at the buzzer in the last couple months (i.e., Boston).

Add in Burks return: 2 wins for depth
Add in Hood for a whole season: 2 wins for depth
Add in improvement from Exum: 2 wins
Add in Gobert starting for a whole year (and no more Kanter): 2 wins
Add in organic improvement from Hayward, Favors, and Burke: 4 wins
Can't sneak up on teams as much: 2 losses

We go 47-35.
 
Last year we had 38 wins and that's with a brutal start and first half thanks to many things like youth, a new coach and system, injuries and Kanter. That is also despite the fact that we lost a game or two at the buzzer in the last couple months (i.e., Boston).

Add in Burks return: 2 wins for depth
Add in Hood for a whole season: 2 wins for depth
Add in improvement from Exum: 2 wins
Add in Gobert starting for a whole year (and no more Kanter): 2 wins
Add in organic improvement from Hayward, Favors, and Burke: 4 wins
Can't sneak up on teams as much: 2 losses

We go 47-35.
47-35 falls right in line with my prediction of 46-50 wins. (And my original prediction window was even tighter.... 46-48 wins)

I think you nailed it.

Can't wait to make my $500 over/under bet in Vegas this October.
 
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