So I was walking out the door for work this morning and
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I feel as though I'm in a pretty good place to comment on this as I have two girls (11 and 5) and three boys (almost 8, almost 4, and 1).
My oldest (girl, 11) has been a very good snuggler since the day she was born. She still loves to sit with me and snuggle. But she has never been into dolls or playing dress up or your other stereotypical girl stuff. She likes to get her hair done by her mom sometimes, but she's shown no interest in make up yet. She does like to make sure her clothes are "cute" and match. She plays competition level soccer and refuses to stop playing to try other things. We put her in dance when she was little, but it was clear very early that it wasn't her thing. She wrestles with me whenever I'm willing. She is willing to try anything as long as she thinks it's relatively safe. She is more of a "let me ask exactly what I'm supposed to do and how I'm supposed to do it" type. She thinks she needs to ask permission to do ANYTHING. She won't really self entertain.
#2 (boy, almost 8) is pure rough and tumble. I can't sit down by him because he thinks that's an open invitation to wrestle. He plays any sport we are willing to put him in. The only sport he says he's willing to play at a competition level is baseball. He won't do the others because he doesn't want to give up everything else (it's a time/money thing). He doesn't snuggle worth a damn. He is also more timid. He wants to make sure everything is safe and sturdy before venturing out. But he is a problem solver. If he wants to do something, he does what it takes to make it happen. He is very good at self entertaining. He likes to go to work with me, but when he gets bored, he'll find a way to be entertained. One time I found him "riding" a piece of rain gutter calling it his rocket. He played like that for like two hours. We often have to ask several neighbors until we figure out where he is when it's time for dinner or to leave. But he is also very loving. He is the kid who will give up his own stuff to make sure his siblings get some. We joke about leaving the naughty kid (his story is coming) behind somewhere. This kid will literally sit on the floor and refuse to leave to make sure his brother isn't left alone. He'd rather be left behind with him to make sure he is okay than have another privilege. He is the one to stand up and offer his seat to someone else. As long as he has clothes on that don't completely stink, he's okay with it. He doesn't care if it fits or matches.
#3 (girl,5) is the stereotypical girl. She's a tiny little thing. I call her the runt. She is smaller than her younger brother. She loves to dress up and do make up. She does dance and refuses to miss to try sports. She loves dolls and Barbies. She is the second best snuggler of the bunch. She is another that has to ask permission. But she is a feisty little fart. She's certainly not afraid to dish back what her brothers give her. She likes to fart on them and give a cackle type of laugh.
#4 (boy,almost 4) is the stereotypical boy. He is our Tasmanian Devil. He has been caught hanging from our dining chandelier on multiple occasions. The drawer under our stove no longer closes completely because he uses it as a stool. He loves to wrestle the most. But his favorite thing is to randomly walk up to me or my wife and say "I love you".
#5 is too young to know much about.
tl;dnr Stereotypes exist for a reason, but are easily broken.
My oldest (girl, 11) has been a very good snuggler since the day she was born. She still loves to sit with me and snuggle. But she has never been into dolls or playing dress up or your other stereotypical girl stuff. She likes to get her hair done by her mom sometimes, but she's shown no interest in make up yet. She does like to make sure her clothes are "cute" and match. She plays competition level soccer and refuses to stop playing to try other things. We put her in dance when she was little, but it was clear very early that it wasn't her thing. She wrestles with me whenever I'm willing. She is willing to try anything as long as she thinks it's relatively safe. She is more of a "let me ask exactly what I'm supposed to do and how I'm supposed to do it" type. She thinks she needs to ask permission to do ANYTHING. She won't really self entertain.
#2 (boy, almost 8) is pure rough and tumble. I can't sit down by him because he thinks that's an open invitation to wrestle. He plays any sport we are willing to put him in. The only sport he says he's willing to play at a competition level is baseball. He won't do the others because he doesn't want to give up everything else (it's a time/money thing). He doesn't snuggle worth a damn. He is also more timid. He wants to make sure everything is safe and sturdy before venturing out. But he is a problem solver. If he wants to do something, he does what it takes to make it happen. He is very good at self entertaining. He likes to go to work with me, but when he gets bored, he'll find a way to be entertained. One time I found him "riding" a piece of rain gutter calling it his rocket. He played like that for like two hours. We often have to ask several neighbors until we figure out where he is when it's time for dinner or to leave. But he is also very loving. He is the kid who will give up his own stuff to make sure his siblings get some. We joke about leaving the naughty kid (his story is coming) behind somewhere. This kid will literally sit on the floor and refuse to leave to make sure his brother isn't left alone. He'd rather be left behind with him to make sure he is okay than have another privilege. He is the one to stand up and offer his seat to someone else. As long as he has clothes on that don't completely stink, he's okay with it. He doesn't care if it fits or matches.
#3 (girl,5) is the stereotypical girl. She's a tiny little thing. I call her the runt. She is smaller than her younger brother. She loves to dress up and do make up. She does dance and refuses to miss to try sports. She loves dolls and Barbies. She is the second best snuggler of the bunch. She is another that has to ask permission. But she is a feisty little fart. She's certainly not afraid to dish back what her brothers give her. She likes to fart on them and give a cackle type of laugh.
#4 (boy,almost 4) is the stereotypical boy. He is our Tasmanian Devil. He has been caught hanging from our dining chandelier on multiple occasions. The drawer under our stove no longer closes completely because he uses it as a stool. He loves to wrestle the most. But his favorite thing is to randomly walk up to me or my wife and say "I love you".
#5 is too young to know much about.
tl;dnr Stereotypes exist for a reason, but are easily broken.
this is one of the reasons that i miss utah. really family oriented and can see kids everywhere. utah is a perfect place to raise children. 
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♪alt13
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My daughter is nine can dribble with her left hand and has a nice crossover for a little kid with a brutal first step. Srsly the first time she pulled that on me this summer I almost crapped my pants. She was never very sportsy but she has come into her own this summer.
She has turned into a pretty good shot with her BB gun as well. She loves it. I plan on getting her a pellet gun for Christmas this year. (I know god-less Christmas, whatever) I can't wait till she can handle a Ruger .22. She is soo easy to teach. She follows every safety rule to the T. She's gets on target, takes a breath, and squeezes the trigger. She puts my nephew to shame.
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My wife didn't really grow up with guns, but knows how to handle them. For one of our high school dances, the group of us went clay pigeon shooting. She out shot everyone except me, my guy friends included.
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Lol. My first thought was that maybe you're thinking about adoption, and can't decide whether a boy or a girl would be best.
Just adopt one boy & one girl. Problem solved
Miggs
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Lol. My first thought was that maybe you're thinking about adoption, and can't decide whether a boy or a girl would be best.
Just adopt one boy & one girl. Problem solved
$100,000 later...
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We can agree to disagree-- but good luck trying to pinpoint a "gene" that makes girls like pink, and princesses more. Stereotypes ring true because agents of socialization are a very real thing.
Yes, there could be some physiological evidence behind the nurturing spirit of mothers (traced to prolactin, or oxytocin) but that is more reflective during mid-pregnancy or neo-natal motherhood.
There are caring, nurturing, snuggling girls. There are distanced, tomboyish, rebellious girls.
There are boys who want to wrestle and break shelfs from standing on them.
Then there are three boys like in my family, a family where the boys have literally never wrestled with each other, and would rather just sit together and hang out and walk around n ****.
People are different because PEOPLE are different, by and large-- trying to pin differences based on 1 tiny chromosome is ignoring how much of an impact that 23 larger ones can have-- and this is not even taking into account how genetics plays a much smaller role in personality-determination that many expect.
We can agree to disagree-- but good luck trying to pinpoint a "gene" that makes girls like pink, and princesses more. Stereotypes ring true because agents of socialization are a very real thing.
Yes, there could be some physiological evidence behind the nurturing spirit of mothers (traced to prolactin, or oxytocin) but that is more reflective during mid-pregnancy or neo-natal motherhood.
There are caring, nurturing, snuggling girls. There are distanced, tomboyish, rebellious girls.
There are boys who want to wrestle and break shelfs from standing on them.
Then there are three boys like in my family, a family where the boys have literally never wrestled with each other, and would rather just sit together and hang out and walk around n ****.
People are different because PEOPLE are different, by and large-- trying to pin differences based on 1 tiny chromosome is ignoring how much of an impact that 23 larger ones can have-- and this is not even taking into account how genetics plays a much smaller role in personality-determination that many expect.
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Siro's got a decent job, and I'm pretty sure he's been living alone for a while. It's not too hard to save up money for something that matters as much to you as this does, I'm sure.
Miggs
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You're sure? Okay. Try saving $100,000 and get back to me when you're done.
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Maybe I'm biased cuz my parents saved $120000 for a down-payment on a home while the mom was unemployed, and 3 kids were being raised.
And I'm sure it wasn't easy.
CL didn't say it can't be done. Just that it's hard work and takes great discipline.
And boring.
Wait.. Down payment???
I figured $120k could buy a castle in Canada. Wtf would anyone pay real money to live in a massive snow drift?
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We were lucky to get the home when we did. $300000 total, 2500 sq ft., we were the first home-owners. It's in a pretty lame suburb-- but my parents had lived in ****ty government housing built for refugees for a big chunk of their life & they just wanted something where it was 100% their own from the start.
I say lucky cuz we moved in 2003, and the housing market exploded maybe half a year later. Our home would have cost $800000 if we bought it in 2005.