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Are the Jazz going to have to trade Hayward?

Assuming the Jazz want to offer max money, what teams might be attractive enough to pry him away?

Clippers?
Pelicans?
Rockets?

I think the Spurs are going to decline on account of their guard play deteriorating. They've always needed Parker to play at a high level to be contenders.

I think the Jazz would be an attractive option if his wife likes it here and the Jazz are moving towards contention. I don't think Exum changes the outlook for Hayward that much, tbh. The Jazz have this season and next summer to make the right move to improve. We have almost too much young talent right now. If Hood blows up or if Lyles blows up that changes our outlook.
 
What can/will we be able to pay him according to the CBA? 4 year extension at about 25M per?
 
When Hayward contract is up we will have a really good core without him and still be quite good even if he leaves....... And have a max slot opening for someone else.
Nbd
 
Cunning Linguist said:
What can/will we be able to pay him according to the CBA? 4 year extension at about 25M per?
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It's hard to tell because it's probably going to be under the new CBA and it's not known whether or not they will make any changes to the payment structure. For case of simplicity lets assume they keep it the same - salary cap is projected to be 108M in 2017-2018(when he will be able to opt out of his contract and seek a new one in FA). By that time he'd be 7 year veteran, which qualifies him for 30% of the max. So... the max for him would be 32.4M. Only Utah can give him 5 year deal and only Utah can give him 7.5% increases on the salary. So the absolute max would be about 32.4+34.8+37.2+39.6+42 = 186M/5 years or thereabout.

I doubt that happens, though... those numbers are kind of scary when you think about it.
 
stitches said:
It's hard to tell because it's probably going to be under the new CBA and it's not known whether or not they will make any changes to the payment structure. For case of simplicity lets assume they keep it the same - salary cap is projected to be 108M in 2017-2018(when he will be able to opt out of his contract and seek a new one in FA). By that time he'd be 7 year veteran, which qualifies him for 30% of the max. So... the max for him would be 32.4M. Only Utah can give him 5 year deal and only Utah can give him 7.5% increases on the salary. So the absolute max would be about 32.4+34.8+37.2+39.6+42 = 186M/5 years or thereabout.

I doubt that happens, though... those numbers are kind of scary when you think about it.
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The 32.4M max is the starting salary, not the average over the lifespan of the contract?

Thanks for the response. Love your posts.
 
Oh yeah, and holy **** that's ridiculous. And isn't the rumor right now that the players may lock out in one year?
 
Isn't him getting the new max the same as it is now in terms of percentage of the cap? The numbers look ridiculous, but in terms of percentage isn't it not that much different?

Tbh, my gut feeling is the Jazz have to at least win a playoff series if they want to keep Hayward.

I also feel like if his wife tells him she wants to go to Indiana or something, Gordon will do it (but that's just me being cynical). I think the two most dangerous suitors are the Pacers and Celtics.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
The 32.4M max is the starting salary, not the average over the lifespan of the contract?

Thanks for the response. Love your posts.
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I might be wrong on this one... not sure. It might be less than my calculation, but more than the 32.4 average...

The starting one seems to be calculated based on 42.14% of projected BRI rather than 44.74%, so it's probably a bit less... Here's what it says about the 2012 season:

https://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q16

They use a different cap calculation to determine the maximum salaries, which is based on 42.14% of projected BRI rather than 44.74%. In 2005 the sides negotiated a different formula for setting the salary cap but not maximum salaries, so the two became decoupled, and this continued in the 2011 agreement. For this reason the maximum salaries are not actually 25%, 30% or 35% of the cap, and instead are a slightly lower amount. For example, even though the salary cap for 2011-12 is $58.044 million and 25% of this amount is $14.511 million, the 0-6 year maximum salary is actually $12,922,194. In addition, for 2012-13 a 5.8% increase in maximum salaries was agreed to, even though the salary cap stayed the same as 2011-12.
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so the difference is about 1.5M on projected 14.5M salaray. So I would guess the difference on 32M would be about 3.2M and his salary might start at 29.2 add 7.5% increases for the next 4 years:

29.2 + 31.4 + 33.6 + 35.8 + 38 = 168M/5... that's crude approximation.
 
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Bird rights - take whatever someone else decides to offer him, add 25+ million to that plus one of the best young cores in the game and a coach to match. I don't see anyone being able to pry him away. Bird rights are a huge advantage for the Jazz if they're committed to keeping him. Even letting someone else set the market, the Jazz can add that 5th year that nobody else can offer.
 
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