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Trey Lyles

Dr. Jones said:
Riley never played for Kansas, dumbass.
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Whoops, I get my fly-over states mixed up from time to time.:)

Your convoluted statement seems to have some serious racist overtones because the most notable change in basketball in '66 was that Kentucky was defeated in the National Championship by a UTEP team with 5 black starters. Is this the disgrace and permanent change you're referring to? I sure hope not.
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Racist by whom? ME? It's well known the SEC was segregated in 1966 - 2 years after The Civil Rights Act passed. Rupp in basketball and Bear Bryant in football had the political capital to end that in 5 minutes by recruiting ONE black player and they both choose not to. At least Bryant gave in after getting his *** kicked on national TV by USC. Rupp on the other hand was one of the last hold outs. I read somewhere that even ****ing Mississippi was playing black kids before Rupp.

Look, it is what it is - it was a different time and quite frankly, I really don't care. But the comment by Duck about Riley and UK made me chuckle; because he's right - it's not widely known. And that's the way Pat Riley likes it.
 
candrew said:
Whoops, I get my fly-over states mixed up from time to time.:)



Racist by whom? ME? It's well known the SEC was segregated in 1966 - 2 years after The Civil Rights Act passed. Rupp in basketball and Bear Bryant in football had the political capital to end that in 5 minutes by recruiting ONE black player and they both choose not to. At least Bryant gave in after getting his *** kicked on national TV by USC. Rupp on the other hand was one of the last hold outs. I read somewhere that even ****ing Mississippi was playing black kids before Rupp.

Look, it is what it is - it was a different time and quite frankly, I really don't care. But the comment by Duck about Riley and UK made me chuckle; because he's right - it's not widely known. And that's the way Pat Riley likes it.
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So you're saying that it's impossible to have an intelligent conversation with you? Got it.
 
Dr. Jones said:
What most people don't know is Rupp was a scapegoat. The true story is juicier. Rupp repeatedly asked to offer schollies to blacks before the '66 season. But boosters threatened to pull funds from the university if the athletic department allowed it... So Rupp was denied. So it's really more a story of a sad period in this country and not a story about one evil dude.
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I've heard the same stories about Bear Bryant - of course the only problem with this is if this bothered them both so much they could have quit. In the mid-60's either one of them could have written their own ticket. Every school in the country would have been more than willing to hand their programs over to them. But that never happened.
 
candrew said:
I've heard the same stories about Bear Bryant - of course the only problem with this is if this bothered them both so much they could have quit. In the mid-60's either one of them could have written their own ticket. Every school in the country would have been more than willing to hand their programs over to them. But that never happened.
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How do you square that against UK being the 4th SEC school to have blacks join their teams? Why is it that UK is mentioned as the racists when they integrated before dozens of other schools around the country?
Answer is: because the media shovels it and we always buy it.
 
candrew said:
Whoops, I get my fly-over states mixed up from time to time.:)



Racist by whom? ME? It's well known the SEC was segregated in 1966 - 2 years after The Civil Rights Act passed. Rupp in basketball and Bear Bryant in football had the political capital to end that in 5 minutes by recruiting ONE black player and they both choose not to. At least Bryant gave in after getting his *** kicked on national TV by USC. Rupp on the other hand was one of the last hold outs. I read somewhere that even ****ing Mississippi was playing black kids before Rupp.

Look, it is what it is - it was a different time and quite frankly, I really don't care. But the comment by Duck about Riley and UK made me chuckle; because he's right - it's not widely known. And that's the way Pat Riley likes it.
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He likes it that was so much that he spoke about it last night as a guest speaker at the nationally televised Hall Of Fame?

Lmao
 
Jazz4ever said:
He's not even going to play unless Booker is traded.
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I think it also depends on the backup 5 situation. If neither Pleiss nor Withey (provided he makes the team) prove to be adequate backups to Gobert, then Favors will again have to play some minutes at center. That would open up more PT at the 4 for Booker and Lyles.

I think Lyles will appear in about 50 games and average 10 mins/per.
 
Stifle Tower said:
I think it also depends on the backup 5 situation. If neither Pleiss nor Withey (provided he makes the team) prove to be adequate backups to Gobert, then Favors will again have to play some minutes at center. That would open up more PT at the 4 for Booker and Lyles.

I think Lyles will appear in about 50 games and average 10 mins/per.
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I agree. Would have said 8-9 minutes..
 
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