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PG and first team O this year

For me, the argument is about Burks VERSUS the rest of the currently available options. I think Burks wins.
 
NAOS said:
For me, the argument is about Burks VERSUS the rest of the currently available options. I think Burks wins.
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This. The Jazz obviously love the size advantage Dante brought at PG. I feel confident Q will go with the best starting lineup possible and IMO its:

Burks/Hood/Hayward/Favors/Gobert

**** small ball.
 
There's only one way to squash these moranic fantasies and that's to try them and see them fail. You will get a bit of Burks-Hayward-Hood, and it won't go well. There's a reason every NBA head coach uses a point guard.
 
fishonjazz said:
Burks/hood combo won't be any worse defending the perimeter than trey/Burks or hood imo..... In fact I think it will be better
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Right, but I'm comparing it to having Exum start and having Millsap play quite a bit at the 2. Neither could shoot a lick, but they were two of the reasons our defensive rating was so good after the break. It wasn't 100% Gobert.
 
BabyPeterzz said:
This. The Jazz obviously love the size advantage Dante brought at PG. I feel confident Q will go with the best starting lineup possible and IMO its:

Burks/Hood/Hayward/Favors/Gobert

**** small ball.
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With that starting lineup the second unit will score about 2 ppg.
 
franklin said:
There's only one way to squash these moranic fantasies and that's to try them and see them fail. You will get a bit of Burks-Hayward-Hood, and it won't go well. There's a reason every NBA head coach uses a point guard.
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Would rep if I could. MAYBE Burks can play some backup PG. But he's NOT going to be an adequate starting PG in the NBA.

And by "traditional PG," I think you misunderstand me. Jazz DEFINITELY need a PG to bring the ball up and one who can match up against opposing PG's. But we don't need to have a traditional one in the sense that all the offense runs through him. We have Hayward, Burks and even Hood who are going to be play makers. We don't need a Stockton, Williams or Burke who stand and dribble at the top of the key waiting to either initiate the P&R or try to break the opposing PG down and go 1-on-1 as Deron and Trey did/do.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Would rep if I could. MAYBE Burks can play some backup PG. But he's NOT going to be an adequate starting PG in the NBA.

And by "traditional PG," I think you misunderstand me. Jazz DEFINITELY need a PG to bring the ball up and one who can match up against opposing PG's. But we don't need to have a traditional one in the sense that all the offense runs through him. We have Hayward, Burks and even Hood who are going to be play makers. We don't need a Stockton, Williams or Burke who stand and dribble at the top of the key waiting to either initiate the P&R or try to break the opposing PG down and go 1-on-1 as Deron and Trey did/do.
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Agreed. A point guard with a shot will be adequate. If Burks could shoot half reasonable he would be good enough. I want to see 12 and 7 from him this year on 45% from 2 and 35% from 3. I would consider that solid improvement.

A guy like Calderon from 2 seasons ago would fit very very well. Not ideal, but a great fit and affordable contract.
 
zman1527 said:
With that starting lineup the second unit will score about 2 ppg.
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You don't have to put all backups in at the same time.
Stagger the lineups and mix and match bench with starters
 
franklin said:
Agreed. A point guard with a shot will be adequate. If Burks could shoot half reasonable he would be good enough. I want to see 12 and 7 from him this year on 45% from 2 and 35% from 3. I would consider that solid improvement.
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Well last year he averaged 14 pts per game and shot 38.2% from three point land while being injured and playing in a new system under a rookie head coach. So he is already close to some of your numbers. His field goal percentage was low but i think that playing injured and not wanted to attack the rim as much played a part in that. (he was taking shots further from the hoop)
I think that a full off-season and training camp with Quin Snyder and being healthy will bring the field goal percentage up.

As for the 7 that you want him to average, Im not sure if you mean assists or rebounds but either way you will be disappointed in that regard.

7 assists per game would rank number 1 in the nba for shooting guards.
7 rebounds per game would rank number 1 in the nba as well by a large margin (jimmy butler lead all shooting guards with 5.8 per game)

So as far as that goes, you are being way too unrealistic.

He could definately average 12 points (already averaged 14 last year) per game and shoot 35% from 3 (shot 38% from 3 last year) and shoot 45% from the field (he shot 45.7% from the field in 2013-14)
 
franklin said:
Agreed. A point guard with a shot will be adequate. If Burks could shoot half reasonable he would be good enough. I want to see 12 and 7 from him this year on 45% from 2 and 35% from 3. I would consider that solid improvement.

A guy like Calderon from 2 seasons ago would fit very very well. Not ideal, but a great fit and affordable contract.
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IIRC

Doesn't Burks already shoot those .pct's? I'm assuming by 12 and 7 you mean PPG and Ast? I'm not gunna look it up but I'm pretty sure he was around 12 and 3 last season before he went down. i'd for sure like to see him bring his Ast up and I think he can. With Hayward and Hood 5 would be sweet.
 
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